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Title: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: galain on May 22, 2026, 01:04:00 PM
We're often told that Frank Zane had a flawless physique. He was lean, symmetrical...but was he flawless?

In his time, I think Robinson was just as aesthetic. Serge Nubret was a bit earlier but to me he had a better build.

Later guys like Paris, Labrada...they're who I think of when hear terms like balance and symmetry.

I'd even say Danny Padilla was a better bodybuilder.

I don't mean to disrespect Zane at all, but in terms of his perfect physique, was it just that there weren't that many other people who looked like that back in his day that made him stand out?

Here he is. He looks great, but, I can't put my finger on what it is that doesn't 'work' in terms of his build. Is this flawless?

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ffrankzane.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F07%2FFrankimg-scaled.jpeg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=f200cb2b8498398615bd2d33d14304ecbf476a3f077894b20de0cfb71a8aa622)
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Rambone on May 22, 2026, 01:17:14 PM
Not enough mass for me (nh). If we’re going the aesthetics route, I prefer the thickness (nh) of say a Samir Bannout
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Necrosis on May 22, 2026, 01:17:38 PM
the glans of his penis looks atrophied
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: BB on May 22, 2026, 01:28:01 PM
the glans of his penis looks atrophied

The man gave his urethra for the sport, show some respect.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: joswift on May 22, 2026, 01:29:27 PM
Deck chair circumcisions were popular in the early 80s
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 22, 2026, 01:47:11 PM
We're often told that Frank Zane had a flawless physique. He was lean, symmetrical...but was he flawless?

In his time, I think Robinson was just as aesthetic. Serge Nubret was a bit earlier but to me he had a better build.

Later guys like Paris, Labrada...they're who I think of when hear terms like balance and symmetry.

I'd even say Danny Padilla was a better bodybuilder.

I don't mean to disrespect Zane at all, but in terms of his perfect physique, was it just that there weren't that many other people who looked like that back in his day that made him stand out?

Here he is. He looks great, but, I can't put my finger on what it is that doesn't 'work' in terms of his build. Is this flawless?

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ffrankzane.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F07%2FFrankimg-scaled.jpeg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=f200cb2b8498398615bd2d33d14304ecbf476a3f077894b20de0cfb71a8aa622)
Zane won 3 Olympias....... the others you`re mentioning in your post won a combined total of ZERO.

It`s a very subjective sport, plus Weider was as crooked as my hunchback brother.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: robcguns on May 22, 2026, 06:59:48 PM
Yes he was. Guy looks amazing there. I would give up the size game if I could look close to that.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: AbrahamG on May 22, 2026, 08:04:39 PM
Yes he was. Guy looks amazing there. I would give up the size game if I could look close to that.

I don't think you'd like being left off #TeamHorseCock
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: powerbar on May 22, 2026, 08:28:55 PM
He was very overrated where his structure was concerned.  He did get in shape for the era he competed.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 22, 2026, 09:15:49 PM
(https://frankzane.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Winter2010Cover.jpg)

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(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/700092157_980846258287973_1664577262012325485_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=gHzoKpGU5rUQ7kNvwHDl4DW&_nc_oc=AdpS0WicXk94rNIzEprY4P4uvoQMdZBU5cTJ57yExnIZGN-yKpyxSFSMouyehUqkOjw&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&_nc_gid=4GjKDbAuX5bCtTwbcFkclQ&_nc_ss=7b2a8&oh=00_Af6LwZggnZi9iOR7-BD0K-edJACDIYSbdnJeKegGwIeFGw&oe=6A16F7E9)
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 22, 2026, 09:17:00 PM
(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/700035655_981740928198506_1554139309046924903_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=2Fe_JMVLDVAQ7kNvwE5hVHa&_nc_oc=AdofT42xXXIzB4u2bCEj7T-y5fRb3kYRi21nbbEcXEhxWdHZsl_9lT1qRfzjUkmKcPQ&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&_nc_gid=Ouz5NTgZgz4WODYaibXo1w&_nc_ss=7b2a8&oh=00_Af5rSMqWgN75PWfhkvuwO_o5vHge1wlCW_SZd3SV9XIM6g&oe=6A1706EC)
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 22, 2026, 10:55:41 PM
What I've always liked about him was he did his own thing ..I think he realised early on that he couldn't be as big as say Arnold..etc so he worked hard to look much leaner & sculpted which was his strong point
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 22, 2026, 11:33:06 PM
What I've always liked about him was he did his own thing ..I think he realised early on that he couldn't be as big as say Arnold..etc so he worked hard to look much leaner & sculpted which was his strong point

Not trying to be contrarian for the sake of it but "much leaner" than who? And what does "sculpted" mean :D You often hear things like Zane worked to be as symmetrical as possible instead of as big as possible. Nah that was just his genetics. The body almost develops as it wants to develop, there is much less control than believed. JMHO 8)

No he couldn't be as big as Arnold but he tried to get as big as possible, like they all did.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on May 23, 2026, 12:44:26 AM
Imo prime Zane, Robinson and Nubret were of the same quality level. Padilla at his top was excellent but too short. Zane also was an excellent poser, handsome looks, and was marketable.
Robby was a troublemaker. That did not help his career.
If I recall correctly Nubret lived and trained outside of the USA? Living and training close to the bodybuilding media, judges, best gyms etc has advantages.

The magazines at the time and Weider had to sell, and attract advertisers and make profit.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 23, 2026, 01:02:36 AM

Robby was a troublemaker. That did not help his career.
If I recall correctly Nubret lived and trained outside of the USA? Living and training close to the bodybuilding media, judges, best gyms etc has advantages.



I don't know if you were here when Serge died or into bb then but rumors out of France were that Serge died from insulin OD. Before he died one Euro seminar promoter took to Facebook and said Serge demanded he would be supplied with drugs in every country he held a seminar in. There had been a falling out between the promoter and Serge. And he was real old by then. For those that like drug gossip, Milos told of a pre-comp method Serge he learned from Serge. Three weeks out one amp of Winstrol (50mg) a day, 2 a day 2nd week and 3 a day last week. Nothing crazy but I like these little anecdotes.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2026, 01:13:38 AM
Not trying to be contrarian for the sake of it but "much leaner" than who? And what does "sculpted" mean :D You often hear things like Zane worked to be as symmetrical as possible instead of as big as possible. Nah that was just his genetics. The body almost develops as it wants to develop, there is much less control than believed. JMHO 8)

No he couldn't be as big as Arnold but he tried to get as big as possible, like they all did.
It´s OK ..your opinions but i do believe he was very intelligent & knew what he was doing
He mentioned Steve Reeves & Reeves was another Bodybuilder who developed every thing in proportion, neck, Biceps, waist
Reeves in his Book mentioned his shoulder width too, so i believe Zane had his plan

Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 23, 2026, 01:37:00 AM
It´s OK ..your opinions but i do believe he was very intelligent & knew what he was doing
He mentioned Steve Reeves & Reeves was another Bodybuilder who developed every thing in proportion, neck, Biceps, waist
Reeves in his Book mentioned his shoulder width too, so i believe Zane had his plan


IMHO no bodybuilder ever really changes their proportions, for example when they try to emphasize certain muscle groups in training, which is more evidence it's mostly genetic. The guys who are somewhat unproportionate will claim that's actually the look they were going for LOL. Small bodybuilders who can't gain size will claim they don't want a lot of size, they are going for "quality" instead. And so on. Reeves was a genetic freak. Great genes for everything, great proportions and skeletal structure. Steve also believed in complete baloney such as this exercise widening his shoulders:
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 23, 2026, 02:23:36 AM
IMHO no bodybuilder ever really changes their proportions, for example when they try to emphasize certain muscle groups in training, which is more evidence it's mostly genetic. The guys who are somewhat unproportionate will claim that's actually the look they were going for LOL. Small bodybuilders who can't gain size will claim they don't want a lot of size, they are going for "quality" instead. And so on. Reeves was a genetic freak. Great genes for everything, great proportions and skeletal structure. Steve also believed in complete baloney such as this exercise widening his shoulders:
I think more Lats but in his Book "Building the Classic Physique" he mentions it was a warm up exercise with 300 Lbs while training at the York Club.
while on the subject of Delts Armand Tanny measured his shoulder width with outside calipers 23-1/2 inches (his goal was 24 , page 66 of his Book)

He also believed in no direct Oblique work or Traps, he did however get indirect work
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Beefjake on May 23, 2026, 04:24:26 AM
The body almost develops as it wants to develop, there is much less control than believed. JMHO 8)

Yep. Nasser said that he will bring up his back to beat Dorian.

Like, how? He’d been a top pro already for years. Didn’t train his back before?
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: joswift on May 23, 2026, 04:44:06 AM
Yep. Nasser said that he will bring up his back to beat Dorian.

Like, how? He’d been a top pro already for years. Didn’t train his back before?

he filled it full of oil
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: IroNat on May 23, 2026, 04:58:02 AM
(https://frankzane.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Winter2010Cover.jpg)

(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/57104135_2400068080025968_9055434623693094912_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=pjvxX66eNpUQ7kNvwFjWsme&_nc_oc=AdqEIE7qISGJoyLlA-M-Hqt0DyvdxfqwFGyIw4_oQL5tYLITbemm3iNS-PG1n2ZZSwY&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&_nc_gid=81zeG-GKsL4476_BgDpa6g&_nc_ss=7b2a8&oh=00_Af6ndmNhvgFgdZrgm8CtJ-cm6nDaP9qbY70g9bNQhKmG8g&oe=6A388A12)

(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/701509712_981963698176229_5972635491280280264_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=dlyRk1qbt8AQ7kNvwGBq2fO&_nc_oc=AdrST5tqRWT_OeApkHI1U4CrDyj47ZvVSHGlhcSwwtGNMnnIUjoeB8qL4VWKfwxIh8I&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&_nc_gid=NCDgwDyWedJwN99cgT5rDA&_nc_ss=7b2a8&oh=00_Af6HMNVK9oDtQP7blhXdF0jAaagzHEkPv_k1DNX61YOHEA&oe=6A16E430)

(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/700092157_980846258287973_1664577262012325485_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=gHzoKpGU5rUQ7kNvwHDl4DW&_nc_oc=AdpS0WicXk94rNIzEprY4P4uvoQMdZBU5cTJ57yExnIZGN-yKpyxSFSMouyehUqkOjw&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&_nc_gid=4GjKDbAuX5bCtTwbcFkclQ&_nc_ss=7b2a8&oh=00_Af6LwZggnZi9iOR7-BD0K-edJACDIYSbdnJeKegGwIeFGw&oe=6A16F7E9)

Fantastic.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 23, 2026, 05:04:31 AM
Yep. Nasser said that he will bring up his back to beat Dorian.

Like, how? He’d been a top pro already for years. Didn’t train his back before?

Exactly LOL, probably trained his back harder than the rest already. Ain't happening especially at that point. Only way is with oil as joswift says, that's how all the pros bring up weak body parts. Maybe could have gotten some type of liposuction as it was kinda bloofy :D

Bodybuilders should put these growth factors in their muscles.

Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Rambone on May 23, 2026, 05:30:52 AM
Deck chair circumcisions were popular in the early 80s

Cut his career short. Too short IMO. At least he had an elaborate excuse. When you walk up to Dugdale at an expo and ask him WHY and HOW and start talking about the danger of lawn chairs, he (and his wife) just has a puzzled look on his face while quickly walking away.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 23, 2026, 06:14:32 AM
(https://frankzane.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Winter2010Cover.jpg)

(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/57104135_2400068080025968_9055434623693094912_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=pjvxX66eNpUQ7kNvwFjWsme&_nc_oc=AdqEIE7qISGJoyLlA-M-Hqt0DyvdxfqwFGyIw4_oQL5tYLITbemm3iNS-PG1n2ZZSwY&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&_nc_gid=81zeG-GKsL4476_BgDpa6g&_nc_ss=7b2a8&oh=00_Af6ndmNhvgFgdZrgm8CtJ-cm6nDaP9qbY70g9bNQhKmG8g&oe=6A388A12)

(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/701509712_981963698176229_5972635491280280264_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=dlyRk1qbt8AQ7kNvwGBq2fO&_nc_oc=AdrST5tqRWT_OeApkHI1U4CrDyj47ZvVSHGlhcSwwtGNMnnIUjoeB8qL4VWKfwxIh8I&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&_nc_gid=NCDgwDyWedJwN99cgT5rDA&_nc_ss=7b2a8&oh=00_Af6HMNVK9oDtQP7blhXdF0jAaagzHEkPv_k1DNX61YOHEA&oe=6A16E430)

(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/700092157_980846258287973_1664577262012325485_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=gHzoKpGU5rUQ7kNvwHDl4DW&_nc_oc=AdpS0WicXk94rNIzEprY4P4uvoQMdZBU5cTJ57yExnIZGN-yKpyxSFSMouyehUqkOjw&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&_nc_gid=4GjKDbAuX5bCtTwbcFkclQ&_nc_ss=7b2a8&oh=00_Af6LwZggnZi9iOR7-BD0K-edJACDIYSbdnJeKegGwIeFGw&oe=6A16F7E9)
And beat Arnold early in his career.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: galain on May 23, 2026, 12:48:10 PM
I don't know if you were here when Serge died or into bb then but rumors out of France were that Serge died from insulin OD. Before he died one Euro seminar promoter took to Facebook and said Serge demanded he would be supplied with drugs in every country he held a seminar in. There had been a falling out between the promoter and Serge. And he was real old by then. For those that like drug gossip, Milos told of a pre-comp method Serge he learned from Serge. Three weeks out one amp of Winstrol (50mg) a day, 2 a day 2nd week and 3 a day last week. Nothing crazy but I like these little anecdotes.

I think I remember Serge actually coming on here and posting that he was slowly being poisoned by his ....daughter? Was it here? This is the only BB related board I visit and back in the day I still only visited a couple of others.

Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: galain on May 23, 2026, 12:51:02 PM
It´s OK ..your opinions but i do believe he was very intelligent & knew what he was doing
He mentioned Steve Reeves & Reeves was another Bodybuilder who developed every thing in proportion, neck, Biceps, waist
Reeves in his Book mentioned his shoulder width too, so i believe Zane had his plan



No doubt. He always sounded very intelligent. But even if you develop everything in proportion, you're still going to be limited by things like skeletal structure, attachments and insertions...I believe Zane probably emphasised this but he was certainly helped by having the right structure and muscle shape. Kovacs could have trained with the same goals in mind and he would have looked stupid.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: WrongAdvices on May 23, 2026, 02:06:45 PM
IMHO no bodybuilder ever really changes their proportions, for example when they try to emphasize certain muscle groups in training, which is more evidence it's mostly genetic. The guys who are somewhat unproportionate will claim that's actually the look they were going for LOL. Small bodybuilders who can't gain size will claim they don't want a lot of size, they are going for "quality" instead. And so on. Reeves was a genetic freak. Great genes for everything, great proportions and skeletal structure. Steve also believed in complete baloney such as this exercise widening his shoulders:

Arnold changed his calves though, thereby changing his proportions a bit
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 23, 2026, 05:16:05 PM
I think I remember Serge actually coming on here and posting that he was slowly being poisoned by his ....daughter? Was it here? This is the only BB related board I visit and back in the day I still only visited a couple of others.
I remember that......who knows,maybe she did  ???
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Zillotch on May 23, 2026, 09:52:40 PM
(https://scontent-den2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/57104135_2400068080025968_9055434623693094912_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=pjvxX66eNpUQ7kNvwFjWsme&_nc_oc=AdqEIE7qISGJoyLlA-M-Hqt0DyvdxfqwFGyIw4_oQL5tYLITbemm3iNS-PG1n2ZZSwY&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-den2-1.xx&_nc_gid=81zeG-GKsL4476_BgDpa6g&_nc_ss=7b2a8&oh=00_Af6ndmNhvgFgdZrgm8CtJ-cm6nDaP9qbY70g9bNQhKmG8g&oe=6A388A12)

this is within the realm of perfection imo

zane is like paris in that he's not very exciting but becomes stunningly good when in top form - dry and tight - due to structural gifts.

u could inflate this or that... but the overall harmony is undeniable.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.x-rep.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F02%2FFrank-Zane-Gym-Hands-Hips-Grainy-BW.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=b288a17294f57e701b2e42ff98f97179d2aadb1227c5b02738b860504ea31602&ipo=images)
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on May 23, 2026, 10:03:29 PM
(https://xonomax.com/cdn/shop/files/751418.jpg?v=1725536178)


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQDa32OzVI_Z7NKrSZOqVbYpJ4fcb8Y_YEqVT3DBqiMmrmS0O-XUflebJf18QwdsO9OU9S_gCi4PMKP2yVkKKLq6N-4LtApwDsbi4c7Wg&s=10)


Not a mass monster but balance, symmetry, great skin, proportions. His look appealed to a large part of the population, both male and female.

The same qualities that Steve Reeves had.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 23, 2026, 10:30:02 PM
Arnold changed his calves though, thereby changing his proportions a bit

Yep that usually comes up when discussing this topic. Though I don't think Arnold's calves were ever really that bad from what I remember seeing and he obviously had great attachments and the fibers must have been there. But anyways the exception confirms the rule! :D

And pellius did miraculously improve his calves :D

I think I remember Serge actually coming on here and posting that he was slowly being poisoned by his ....daughter? Was it here? This is the only BB related board I visit and back in the day I still only visited a couple of others.



Now that you mention it I do remember that but I don't remember where I saw it either. Now I also remember that Serge went into a coma and then some from France claimed it was an insulin OD. Just a rumor AFAIAC. Maybe Serge was still using speed and in an amphetamine psychosis when he talked about poisoning LOL. Serge had told someone on promuscle he used speed when he was on top, as did many of the others back then.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: tacobender on May 23, 2026, 11:54:53 PM
Wasn’t he a fag? I do know he lives somewhere in Palm Springs so I should say it all.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 24, 2026, 12:49:50 AM
This Guy had a Great Physique back in the Day... 

https://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2018/11/john-defendis-interview-bob-gruskin-1979.html
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: AbrahamG on May 24, 2026, 01:10:21 AM
Wasn’t he a fag? I do know he lives somewhere in Palm Springs so I should say it all.

LMFAO.  Detective Tacobender reporting for duty. 
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: falco on May 24, 2026, 05:07:11 AM
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Better back than Krizo.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 24, 2026, 05:26:20 AM
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Wasn’t he a fag? I do know he lives somewhere in Palm Springs so I should say it all.
^^^^Here`s the fag he`s been married to for 56 years......you fucking weird c0cksucker!
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: joswift on May 24, 2026, 05:38:29 AM
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sounds like a swingers club
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 24, 2026, 06:18:36 AM
Maybe they`re kinky..... you never know!   :D
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 25, 2026, 06:55:17 AM
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sounds like a swingers club
Very attractive wife. I wonder if Arnold ever tried to get with her.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 25, 2026, 07:04:57 AM
Very attractive wife. I wonder if Arnold ever tried to get with her.
I doubt it she didn´t like fat fucks  :D
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 25, 2026, 07:06:24 AM
I doubt it she didn´t like fat fucks  :D
Arnold was skinnier than Zane in the late 70's. When Zane ruptured his cock in the 80's she probably had guys all over her.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on May 25, 2026, 07:16:54 AM
A true legend but was very arrogant. I guess he had a right to be. He wasn’t very friendly when I met him. I feel Zane wouldn’t look down on someone only if they were famous, paying him money, or was a fellow competitor or armed forces vet.

Sergio Oliva was the exact opposite when I met him. Did Zane act like he was the greatest of all time? I would say yes. And I would say he was mistaken to think that.

But I feel he was one of the greatest. He’s not in my Top 5, but I think his training and diet should be studied and get a tip of the hat.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: joswift on May 25, 2026, 07:18:38 AM
PFFT

Hanky is 220lb, he would bury Zane.,
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 25, 2026, 07:22:50 AM
A true legend but was very arrogant. I guess he had a right to be. He wasn’t very friendly when I met him. I feel Zane wouldn’t look down on someone only if they were famous, paying him money, or was a fellow competitor or armed forces vet.

Sergio Oliva was the exact opposite when I met him. Did Zane act like he was the greatest of all time? I would say yes. And I would say he was mistaken to think that.

But I feel he was one of the greatest. He’s not in my Top 5, but I think his training and diet should be studied and get a tip of the hat.
You would think being a school teacher would make someone very humble.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 25, 2026, 07:26:43 AM
A true legend but was very arrogant. I guess he had a right to be. He wasn’t very friendly when I met him. I feel Zane wouldn’t look down on someone only if they were famous, paying him money, or was a fellow competitor or armed forces vet.

Sergio Oliva was the exact opposite when I met him. Did Zane act like he was the greatest of all time? I would say yes. And I would say he was mistaken to think that.

But I feel he was one of the greatest. He’s not in my Top 5, but I think his training and diet should be studied and get a tip of the hat.
Jerry Brainum said he was a weird guy at times..Zane liked to smoke weed, maybe had mood swings
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Griffith on May 25, 2026, 08:12:29 AM
A true legend but was very arrogant. I guess he had a right to be. He wasn’t very friendly when I met him. I feel Zane wouldn’t look down on someone only if they were famous, paying him money, or was a fellow competitor or armed forces vet.

Sergio Oliva was the exact opposite when I met him. Did Zane act like he was the greatest of all time? I would say yes. And I would say he was mistaken to think that.

But I feel he was one of the greatest. He’s not in my Top 5, but I think his training and diet should be studied and get a tip of the hat.

Did you meet Sergio Oliva when he was still competing? What were your impressions?
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 25, 2026, 08:31:39 AM
but I think his training and diet should be studied

You think we would learn something new?

Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on May 25, 2026, 08:41:16 AM
Did you meet Sergio Oliva when he was still competing? What were your impressions?
I met him when he was retired. I think it was one of the last Olympias that Ronnie won. He was so friendly and spoke to me for a while. No one was at his booth and he was happy I wanted to meet him. Big smile on his face and welcoming. Really humble and a kind man.

You think we would learn something new?


His pullovers were intriguing.



Jerry Brainum said he was a weird guy at times..Zane liked to smoke weed, maybe had mood swings
I just remember he was hunched over under his booth’s tent at the expo and seemed angry at anyone who came over to meet him. Not sure why he attended the expo. He reminded me of an angry old man yelling at people who walked on his lawn.

You would think being a school teacher would make someone very humble.
Definitely didn’t seem humble to me. He appeared on edge like a Vietnam Vet with PTSD flashbacks.

Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 25, 2026, 08:41:30 AM
You think we would learn something new?
well maybe you should enlighten us with your wisdom as you seem to know better in almost every subject
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 25, 2026, 09:22:41 AM
I never met Zane but I overheard Katz,Arnold,Franco,and a few others say he was quiet and didn`t speak much...........Arnold called him a stuck up asshole.

I heard this back when they filmed Pumping Iron.......did I ever tell you guys I was in P.I. ?   LOL   ;D
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on May 25, 2026, 09:31:31 AM
well maybe you should enlighten us with your wisdom as you seem to know better in almost every subject

Fuck of fuckface!!!!!!

You don't see how I constantly repeat how uncertain I am and that I ask for others' opinions? You don't see how I constantly say I'm not familiar with this or that subject? How much do I have to apologize for my humble remarks in my posts? Of course I sometimes make a gentle sarcastic remark, I try to fit in as that's how you're supposed to act here. I mean working out is just so.... similar among bodybuilders. This post is meant to be in a good natured nonconfrontational tone - bro! :D ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: IroNat on May 25, 2026, 10:45:11 AM
That's it, Van.

Tell Donny to f*ck off.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on May 25, 2026, 11:18:10 AM
I never met Zane but I overheard Katz,Arnold,Franco,and a few others say he was quiet and didn`t speak much...........Arnold called him a stuck up asshole.

I heard this back when they filmed Pumping Iron.......did I ever tell you guys I was in P.I. ?   LOL   ;D
You were in Pumping Iron?
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: illuminati on May 25, 2026, 01:29:42 PM
Fuck of fuckface!!!!!!

You don't see how I constantly repeat how uncertain I am and that I ask for others' opinions? You don't see how I constantly say I'm not familiar with this or that subject? How much do I have to apologize for my humble remarks in my posts? Of course I sometimes make a gentle sarcastic remark, I try to fit in as that's how you're supposed to act here. I mean working out is just so.... similar among bodybuilders. This post is meant to be in a good natured nonconfrontational tone - bro! :D ;D :D ;D


Van - take zero notice of Donny the Die Linke communist Hypocrite/ Liar & Snitch
He's a complete & utter scumbag & lower than a Snakes belly.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 25, 2026, 02:07:50 PM
You were in Pumping Iron?
Cameraman panned by me in a crowd scene twice.......my claim to fame.   ;D
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 28, 2026, 06:01:41 AM
He beat Mentzer every time they met on stage ..... thats good enough to me



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 28, 2026, 06:43:53 AM
He beat Mentzer every time they met on stage ..... thats good enough to me



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh
Mentzer was so obsessed with Arnold he couldn't focus on his real competition.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2026, 06:50:43 AM
Mentzer was so obsessed with Arnold he couldn't focus on his real competition.
he wasn´t focused on Arnold, he hated the corruption that Arnold was a part of
you guys can ball lick Arnold all day but you know Arnold was a f@ggot passed around by the Weiders
without Joe & ben he wouldn´t be in the US of A & nothing, he paid a price ...hahaha
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Brenda Steunbeer on May 28, 2026, 06:59:10 AM
he wasn´t focused on Arnold, he hated the corruption that Arnold was a part of
you guys can ball lick Arnold all day but you know Arnold was a f@ggot passed around by the Weiders
without Joe & ben he wouldn´t be in the US of A & nothing, he paid a price ...hahaha


Nice try but bs. Arnold already was an established champion before he moved to the USA
NABBA Mr Universe 1966, 1967 and 1968

It's the lower less talented and less succesful bodybuilders who were struggling (see the link to the Bill Grant video in another topic...)
The Weiders knew Arnold was a money making machine for them

He was the future of bodybuilding and very marketable. Advertisers, and readers liked him = more sales. What it's all about.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2026, 07:08:57 AM

Nice try but bs. Arnold already was an established champion before he moved to the USA
NABBA Mr Universe 1966, 1967 and 1968

It's the lower less talented and less succesful bodybuilders who were struggling (see the link to the Bill Grant video in another topic...)
The Weiders knew Arnold was a money making machine for them

He was the future of bodybuilding and very marketable. Advertisers, and readers liked him = more sales. What it's all about.
Before Arnold arrived he was in England with a Guy called Wag Bennett & lived with his family
Wag Bennet had a Gym where Arnold trained.
In the US of A Weider knew he was a fatty & sent him to Vince Gironda..who called him a Fat Bastard
Arnold´s ego was too big .. he sold out to the old men who loved homosexuality .muscle boys & sodomy :-X
the rest is history  :D
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 28, 2026, 07:10:26 AM

Nice try but bs. Arnold already was an established champion before he moved to the USA
NABBA Mr Universe 1966, 1967 and 1968

It's the lower less talented and less succesful bodybuilders who were struggling (see the link to the Bill Grant video in another topic...)
The Weiders knew Arnold was a money making machine for them

He was the future of bodybuilding and very marketable. Advertisers, and readers liked him = more sales. What it's all about.

This.

In fact, Mentzer was the one passed around to have his rent covered, drugs etc  .... his fans very well are aware of that, yet they keep throwing the Arnold homo" comments like that somehow makes Mentzer better than him ...


WooooooSSSHHHHHHHHH


Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2026, 07:15:31 AM
This.

In fact, Mentzer was the one passed around to have his rent covered, drugs etc  .... his fans very well are aware of that, yet they keep throwing the Arnold homo" comments like that somehow makes Mentzer better than him ...


WooooooSSSHHHHHHHHH

To be fair to Arnold..i do believe he & paul Graham had a real Homo relationship,
if Arnold used Paul´s love for him to make him take the rap for criminality & give him the Mr O in 1980 is in my opinion probable
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: beakdoctor on May 28, 2026, 08:29:07 AM
 I genuinely do not get the reverence for Zane. Of course he looked great, he was a pro bodybuilder at a time when all pro bodybuilders looked great. The standards at the time were such that size, proportion,  definition were all at their ideal masculine peak.

What I mean by that is, in ancient Rome or ancient Greece, artists sculpted statues of what a heroic male should look like, though few men walked around looking like those statues, the artists imagined what a God or mythical hero should ideally look like and if you compared it to modern man the closest you would get is a pro bodybuilder of the 70's/early 80's.

With that said, imo Zane is overrated.  Yes, he had a few really good years, 1968, 1978 and 1979 in particular. I think his biggest asset was how he presented his physique and the way he posed, his  other major strength was during his Olympia run when he figured out how to get much more shredded than his competition. Beyond that it's hard for me to see how he was objectively better than many of his peers- take Coe or Beckles or Dickerson or Viator or Padilla for example. And say who had the best chest? Arms? Back? Legs? Abs? I dont see Zane winning any of those categories,  but somehow it's sacrilege to suggest any of those guys were better than Zane.

TL/DR- no, Zane is not as great/perfect as we're told but still a great physique nonetheless.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: MajorDomo on May 28, 2026, 10:54:08 AM
I always felt this physique was attainable by a 5'9" guy. Maybe not me though, haha. But he embodies a realistic body type as opposed to what i see these days.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 28, 2026, 03:18:16 PM
I genuinely do not get the reverence for Zane. Of course he looked great, he was a pro bodybuilder at a time when all pro bodybuilders looked great. The standards at the time were such that size, proportion,  definition were all at their ideal masculine peak.

What I mean by that is, in ancient Rome or ancient Greece, artists sculpted statues of what a heroic male should look like, though few men walked around looking like those statues, the artists imagined what a God or mythical hero should ideally look like and if you compared it to modern man the closest you would get is a pro bodybuilder of the 70's/early 80's.

With that said, imo Zane is overrated.  Yes, he had a few really good years, 1968, 1978 and 1979 in particular. I think his biggest asset was how he presented his physique and the way he posed, his  other major strength was during his Olympia run when he figured out how to get much more shredded than his competition. Beyond that it's hard for me to see how he was objectively better than many of his peers- take Coe or Beckles or Dickerson or Viator or Padilla for example. And say who had the best chest? Arms? Back? Legs? Abs? I dont see Zane winning any of those categories,  but somehow it's sacrilege to suggest any of those guys were better than Zane.

TL/DR- no, Zane is not as great/perfect as we're told but still a great physique nonetheless.
A lot of those guys had far better body parts than Zane.....but the overall physique on stage is what set him apart.

He had a certain flow that no one  else had.

Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Royalty on May 28, 2026, 03:24:23 PM
A lot of those guys had far better body parts than Zane.....but the overall physique on stage is what set him apart.

He had a certain flow that no one  else had.

Samir Bannout said that backstage, Zane looked like nothing.  And backstage, Mike Mentzer and Robby Robinson looked like monsters.

But once they filed onstage, Samir said that his eyes went straight to Zane. Zane looked unbeatable
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Bevo on May 28, 2026, 06:15:31 PM
Zane won 3 Olympias....... the others you`re mentioning in your post won a combined total of ZERO.

It`s a very subjective sport, plus Weider was as crooked as my hunchback brother.

I mean, Shawn Ray, Chris Cormier, Flex Wheeler, Kevin Levrone, won a total of ZERO, but Lundsford, Curry, Ramy, Samson, Jay, Hadi, are all O winners
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Bevo on May 28, 2026, 06:16:54 PM
Cameraman panned by me in a crowd scene twice.......my claim to fame.   ;D

Were you in the back pump up room rubbing oil on the competitors?
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Bevo on May 28, 2026, 06:29:26 PM
Before Arnold arrived he was in England with a Guy called Wag Bennett & lived with his family
Wag Bennet had a Gym where Arnold trained.
In the US of A Weider knew he was a fatty & sent him to Vince Gironda..who called him a Fat Bastard
Arnold´s ego was too big .. he sold out to the old men who loved homosexuality .muscle boys & sodomy :-X
the rest is history  :D

Like you with black prostitutes while being married
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 28, 2026, 07:51:52 PM
I mean, Shawn Ray, Chris Cormier, Flex Wheeler, Kevin Levrone, won a total of ZERO, but Lundsford, Curry, Ramy, Samson, Jay, Hadi, are all O winners
Sheer lunacy isn`t it ???
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 28, 2026, 07:52:37 PM
Were you in the back pump up room rubbing oil on the competitors?
I`ll never tell big boy!!   ;D
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: AbrahamG on May 28, 2026, 09:24:04 PM
he wasn´t focused on Arnold, he hated the corruption that Arnold was a part of
you guys can ball lick Arnold all day but you know Arnold was a f@ggot passed around by the Weiders
without Joe & ben he wouldn´t be in the US of A & nothing, he paid a price ...hahaha

You really, really want to believe Arnold is homosexual.  I think most folks here know why that is.  I'm starting to think all the black prostitutes you fuck/fucked while married have little surprises down below.  The only thing left to uncover is whether or not you take it up the ass, down the hatch or both. 
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2026, 09:54:44 PM
You really, really want to believe Arnold is homosexual.  I think most folks here know why that is.  I'm starting to think all the black prostitutes you fuck/fucked while married have little surprises down below.  The only thing left to uncover is whether or not you take it up the ass, down the hatch or both.
You're obviously an angry Black Gay man
You & Bevo seem quite close  :-X
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: AbrahamG on May 28, 2026, 09:58:24 PM
You're obviously an angry Black Gay man
You & Bevo seem quite close  :-X

Listen up cocksmith.  Bevo is a founding member of #teamhorsecock.  Put some respect on that man's name. 
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: honest on May 28, 2026, 09:58:41 PM
I think Zane had one of the most balanced classical physiques we have ever seen. He would not rate in anyones top ten bodybuilding physiques, as his mass isn't there by later era standards, but I don't think there is anyone else as well put together at that weight and height in that era.
In the 90s era you can't go past flex 1993, that's the best 215 pound bodybuilder we have ever seen, trouble is he run into the best 257lb bodybuilder we have ever seen.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 28, 2026, 10:34:14 PM
 :)

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Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Bevo on May 28, 2026, 11:35:25 PM
Listen up cocksmith.  Bevo is a founding member of #teamhorsecock.  Put some respect on that man's name.

Haha, thank you kind sir  8) this board is much better with you here. All homo
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: beakdoctor on May 29, 2026, 12:03:43 AM
A lot of those guys had far better body parts than Zane.....but the overall physique on stage is what set him apart.

He had a certain flow that no one  else had.

Wes, who do you think was more impressive,  Zane or Serge Nubret?
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: AbrahamG on May 29, 2026, 12:15:28 AM
Wes, who do you think was more impressive,  Zane or Serge Nubret?

I know you axed Wes but I say Serge.  Especially after you figure in the COCK.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: beakdoctor on May 29, 2026, 01:11:59 AM
I know you axed Wes but I say Serge.  Especially after you figure in the COCK.

I agree. Didn't consider cock at all but it does strengthen the case for Serge.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: joswift on May 29, 2026, 01:29:26 AM
I know you axed Wes but I say Serge.  Especially after you figure in the COCK.

I thought black people just mis-spoke "ask" I didnt think you actually thought that was how it was spelt.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 29, 2026, 02:07:54 AM
Wes, who do you think was more impressive,  Zane or Serge Nubret?
Serge was more impressive IMO,especially in photos....I mean his side chest shot was insane....but he knew how to pose to hide his weaker developed quads.......Zane and Arnold were masters at hiding their weaker body parts also.

From a sheer bodybuilding standpoint if both Zane and Nubret we're at their best,I would wager Zane would beat him.....it`s all about the total "picture" so to speak.

Zane had a perfectly balanced physique.

Nubret was amazing though.......one of my favorites.

NO HOMO
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 29, 2026, 02:22:38 AM
Serge was more impressive IMO,especially in photos....I mean his side chest shot was insane....but he knew how to pose to hide his weaker developed quads.......Zane and Arnold were masters at hiding their weaker body parts also.

From a sheer bodybuilding standpoint if both Zane and Nubret we're at their best,I would wager Zane would beat him.....it`s all about the total "picture" so to speak.

Zane had a perfectly balanced physique.

Nubret was amazing though.......one of my favorites.

NO HOMO
Serge ate Horse Meat, never tried it myself  :)
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 29, 2026, 03:36:39 AM
Serge ate Horse Meat, never tried it myself  :)
They eat it a lot in France I`m told.............fuck that!!   ;D
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 29, 2026, 03:37:53 AM
They eat it a lot in France I`m told.............fuck that!!   ;D
Wes i am now an old fart, 60 today  :D
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Pet shop boys on May 29, 2026, 05:19:59 AM
Wes i am now an old fart, 60 today  :D

Many blessing ....

Ill have a cigar and tall glass of beer  to your health


60 is the new 45 (by Getbig standards)

WoooSSSHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 29, 2026, 05:39:47 AM
Many blessing ....

Ill have a cigar and tall glass of beer  to your health


60 is the new 45 (by Getbig standards)

WoooSSSHHHHHHHHH
Thanks .. :)
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: IroNat on May 29, 2026, 07:44:20 AM
Happy Birthday, Donny.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 29, 2026, 08:07:10 AM
Happy Birthday, Donny.
Thanks
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 29, 2026, 08:17:25 AM
Wes i am now an old fart, 60 today  :D
Happy Birthday brother....I`ll be 71 next Sunday.   :(
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: galain on May 30, 2026, 12:49:03 AM
Serge was more impressive IMO,especially in photos....I mean his side chest shot was insane....but he knew how to pose to hide his weaker developed quads.......Zane and Arnold were masters at hiding their weaker body parts also.

From a sheer bodybuilding standpoint if both Zane and Nubret we're at their best,I would wager Zane would beat him.....it`s all about the total "picture" so to speak.

Zane had a perfectly balanced physique.

Nubret was amazing though.......one of my favorites.

NO HOMO

I think Nubret had one of the best physiques of all time. I think Zane might have been bigger - his legs were better for sure - but legs were less of a thing in Serge's prime than they became later. A comparison of the two would be interesting to see.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on May 30, 2026, 01:26:02 AM
I think Nubret had one of the best physiques of all time. I think Zane might have been bigger - his legs were better for sure - but legs were less of a thing in Serge's prime than they became later. A comparison of the two would be interesting to see.
not sure how accurate this article is but most sources say high rep leg work

https://steelsupplements.com/blogs/steel-blog/serge-nubrets-real-workout-routine-diet-plan?srsltid=AfmBOorBQS6kCAAqi6HdZeYIIxWKOfDDZ0sHeOGdKMJesXCpLms12_HQ
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 30, 2026, 01:55:09 AM
I think Nubret had one of the best physiques of all time. I think Zane might have been bigger - his legs were better for sure - but legs were less of a thing in Serge's prime than they became later. A comparison of the two would be interesting to see.
(https://www.ambal.ru/62316404991.jpg)
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: IroNat on May 30, 2026, 06:26:17 AM
I think Nubret had one of the best physiques of all time. I think Zane might have been bigger - his legs were better for sure - but legs were less of a thing in Serge's prime than they became later. A comparison of the two would be interesting to see.

Nubret outweighed Zane by about 20 lbs and per Bhanky that makes him superior.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: _bruce_ on May 30, 2026, 09:42:39 AM
(https://www.ambal.ru/62316404991.jpg)

Zane had an outstanding pyhsique.
He was also lucky that his "lack of size" became some kind of selling point of his.
When I was reading MuscularDickvelopment I thought Zane was small and useless but as an old fart I would rather look like Zane than those other mutants.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on May 30, 2026, 10:41:32 AM
Zane had an outstanding pyhsique.
He was also lucky that his "lack of size" became some kind of selling point of his.
When I was reading MuscularDickvelopment I thought Zane was small and useless but as an old fart I would rather look like Zane than those other mutants.
Remember when Getbig used to say he looked like he had the body of a swimmer.....I`d like to look like that swimmer!   :D
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 30, 2026, 11:39:26 AM
Remember when Getbig used to say he looked like he had the body of a swimmer.....I`d like to look like that swimmer!   :D
A swimmer on the beach with that body would get all the girls.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: IroNat on May 30, 2026, 12:25:50 PM
I remember that after Zane won his first couple Olympias it started a trend toward extreme definition over mass.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Sandrock on May 30, 2026, 07:12:30 PM
I know you axed Wes but I say Serge.  Especially after you figure in the COCK.

Serge's cock looked like a piece of feces so Zane wins via superior white cock.

Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 31, 2026, 12:42:24 AM
Serge's cock looked like a piece of feces so Zane wins via superior white cock.
Bro...
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Bevo on May 31, 2026, 06:03:55 PM
Serge's cock looked like a piece of feces so Zane wins via superior white cock.

Zane’s cock was deformed from the lawn chair
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Rambone on May 31, 2026, 06:28:59 PM
On stage, Zane was as dangerous as a $5 lawn chair.


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WmkAAOSw0sVl63i7/s-l400.jpg)
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Never1AShow on May 31, 2026, 09:13:10 PM
Happy Birthday brother....I`ll be 71 next Sunday.   :(

71 centuries is a hell of an accomplishment, bodybuilding is much easier when you don't have to lift pyramid stones!

Imagine how many piles of Duke's shit Hankins will step on in his weed ridden back yard if he even makes it to 51.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: wes on June 01, 2026, 01:52:30 AM
71 centuries is a hell of an accomplishment, bodybuilding is much easier when you don't have to lift pyramid stones!

Imagine how many piles of Duke's shit Hankins will step on in his weed ridden back yard if he even makes it to 51.
;D
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: pamith on June 01, 2026, 03:52:31 AM
I feel like he looked great, but I admired the massive guys more, from that era, guys like Arnold, Franco and Lou Ferrigno
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 01, 2026, 06:12:06 AM
I feel like he looked great, but I admired the massive guys more, from that era, guys like Arnold, Franco and Lou Ferrigno

This ...

I think Bob Paris 84 would have beaten Zane in the late 70's .... Ironically, I think Paris never made the top six at the Olympia.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on June 01, 2026, 06:18:06 AM
This ...

I think Bob Paris 84 would have beaten Zane in the late 70's .... Ironically, I think Paris never made the top six at the Olympia.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Bob Paris was a Great Bodybuilder
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: beakdoctor on June 01, 2026, 07:16:41 AM
This ...

I think Bob Paris 84 would have beaten Zane in the late 70's .... Ironically, I think Paris never made the top six at the Olympia.



WoooSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

As an amatuer and his first few years as a pro Paris looked phenomenal.  Later in his career he looked good, he was fairly tall and wide with perfect proportions but never approached the same level of conditioning as he did early on.

As far as 84 Paris vs 79 Zane, that would be very close. I think Paris was just as ripped as Zane but Paris was larger and had better lines, better aesthetics. However Zane's posing and presentation was better imo. Paris posing was pretty gay- not just because he was gay- he posed to really soft ballads and/or classical music, much like Dickerson.  Zanes poses were masculine,  powerful,  he posed to pink Floyd 'one of these days' and 'run lije hell' both great songs to pose to. On the surface,  Paris wins easily.  But going back to Wes' point, Zane's presentation was untouchable. He carried himself like the winner.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on June 01, 2026, 07:30:05 AM
As an amatuer and his first few years as a pro Paris looked phenomenal.  Later in his career he looked good, he was fairly tall and wide with perfect proportions but never approached the same level of conditioning as he did early on.

As far as 84 Paris vs 79 Zane, that would be very close. I think Paris was just as ripped as Zane but Paris was larger and had better lines, better aesthetics. However Zane's posing and presentation was better imo. Paris posing was pretty gay- not just because he was gay- he posed to really soft ballads and/or classical music, much like Dickerson.  Zanes poses were masculine,  powerful,  he posed to pink Floyd 'one of these days' and 'run lije hell' both great songs to pose to. On the surface,  Paris wins easily.  But going back to Wes' point, Zane's presentation was untouchable. He carried himself like the winner.
I don´t agree
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: beakdoctor on June 02, 2026, 12:12:08 AM
I don´t agree

Bob was pretty fucking ripped when he first turned pro. Overall and especially in his last few years Bob never got shredded. There are a few pics of him floating around from that time. I may have the exact year wrong. It may have been 85.

Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Donny on June 02, 2026, 01:20:05 AM
Bob was pretty fucking ripped when he first turned pro. Overall and especially in his last few years Bob never got shredded. There are a few pics of him floating around from that time. I may have the exact year wrong. It may have been 85.



Yeah..he looks good there, chest striations & glutes  :D
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Rambone on June 02, 2026, 05:05:09 AM
I was told Zane was perfect, and I’d be goddamned to think otherwise!
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: beakdoctor on June 02, 2026, 06:53:51 AM
I was told Zane was perfect, and I’d be goddamned to think otherwise!

Some things are incontrovertible truths.

Zane was perfect

Mentzer lost because he let his belly hang out.

You are no good if you have rusty fenders on your bicycle.

Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Rambone on June 02, 2026, 08:55:42 AM
Some things are incontrovertible truths.

Zane was perfect

Mentzer lost because he let his belly hang out.

You are no good if you have rusty fenders on your bicycle.

And you’re not Catholic, so you’re NO GOOD!
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: IroNat on June 02, 2026, 09:30:42 AM
If you weigh less than Bhanky you're no good.
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on June 03, 2026, 11:51:29 AM
Bob was pretty fucking ripped when he first turned pro. Overall and especially in his last few years Bob never got shredded. There are a few pics of him floating around from that time. I may have the exact year wrong. It may have been 85.



I don't remember seeing this level of bitch tits on him before. Maybe you need a 'trained' eye to see it :D
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: njflex on June 03, 2026, 07:11:04 PM
I don't remember seeing this level of bitch tits on him before. Maybe you need a 'trained' eye to see it :D
Yeah never noticed but he did,,,shredded here tho..
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Bevo on June 03, 2026, 07:25:51 PM
On stage, Zane was as dangerous as a $5 lawn chair.


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WmkAAOSw0sVl63i7/s-l400.jpg)

Those 70’s made lawn chairs were good quality, sturdy , and has a snap sound to them that’s louder than today’s cheaply made crap. One can only imagine how Zane was in agony when he heard the loud snap
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: AbrahamG on June 03, 2026, 08:21:02 PM
Yeah never noticed but he did,,,shredded here tho..

He should have had his husband suck them titties dry. 
Title: Re: Was Zane as perfect as we're told he was?
Post by: Never1AShow on June 03, 2026, 09:30:49 PM
Yeah never noticed but he did,,,shredded here tho..

The Essen video (I think it's this same 1987 one) makes everyone look unbelievably shredded.  Probably the single best lighting and filming set up ever.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=3276461032641869