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Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. raised some eyebrows last week by telling podcaster Adam Corolla that not only is Trump Derangement Syndrome a real thing, but that he has considered officially giving it an ICD (International Classification of Diseases) code.
While the secretary's remark may have been somewhat in jest (he was responding to a joke about a hypothetical TDS vaccine), he has been clear that the phenomenon that has torn apart so many Americans is indeed happening, including in his own family.
And it isn’t just Kennedy sounding the alarm. Psychotherapist Jonathan Alpert argues that Trump Derangement Syndrome is not only genuine, but that it infects 75% of his liberal Manhattanite patients.
"This is a profound pathology, and I would even go so far to call it the defining pathology of our time," Alpert told Fox News Digital last year.
THERAPIST SAYS HE RECEIVED THREATS AFTER CALLING ‘TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME' REAL 'PATHOLOGY'
"It doesn't take long for me to pick up on this: people are obsessed with Trump, they’re fixated, they’re hyper-fixated on Trump," he continued. "And they talk about some of the features of this disorder — they can’t sleep, they feel traumatized by Mr. Trump, they feel restless."
Kennedy and Alpert are completely correct that TDS is a genuine phenomenon, but they are wrong to think of it as a mental disorder that operates primarily on the individual level. What we are witnessing is actually classic mass hysteria.
This is an important distinction, because one cannot simply treat an individual for TDS, as Corolla joked, with a vaccine or even therapy. No, the entire system that is encouraging the social contagion has to be addressed, not unlike the trans issue.
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In the case of both TDS and trans identity, outside elements are not just influencing the behavior, they are constantly reinforcing it; it doesn’t primarily exist inside the individual, but rather everywhere outside the individual.
There are four basic hallmarks of people affected by mass hysteria. See if any of these seem familiar to you:
Belief in something specific that has triggered their symptoms
No underlying conditions that could prompt the symptoms
They would not behave this way normally
Extreme fear of an exaggerated or a non-existent threat
HOW TRUMP PANIC BROKE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND FUELED ENDLESS CRISIS POLITICS
It is perfectly obvious that irrational fear of Donald Trump and his presidency has been fueled by a hysterical media, not just in the news game. On late night TV, The View and even many sports programs, the external message to those suffering from TDS is that Trump is everywhere and in everything.
Trump has been turned into a bogeyman, a term which in fact comes from stories that were told to scare British children of French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte, the original ‘boneyman."
But this time, centuries later, it is not kids who are terrified, but grown adults. They view the threat of Trump as so existential, so primal, that it forces them to cut ties with loved ones who are aligned with the supposed threat of Trump.
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All of this is then further normalized by think pieces, advice columns and Tik Tok videos urging people to cut ties with their MAGA relations. It is often presented as a moral duty
f we are going to tackle TDS, and we should, it will not be with injections or sessions lying on couches, but rather by addressing the media that has been inventing and feeding the hysteria for over a decade now.
Mass hysteria has a long history, from the dancing sickness of the 16th century to the Salem Witch Trials. But never have the conditions been better for mass hysteria to spread far and wide, fed to us by the social media algorithm.
Sadly, we seem a long way from fixing the mass media root problems of Trump Derangement Syndrome, with its constant claims that Trump is bringing back Jim Crow and the Confederacy, or that Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are his own personal gestapo.
So long as the media and the Democrats continue to treat every single thing that Trump does as the end of democracy, Trump Derangement Syndrome will be with us, and more relationships will be sundered.
Thus far, in history, all known cases of mass hysteria eventually ran their course and ended, and eventually TDS will, as well. But that will happen a lot faster if the media and those in power on the left can diagnose and cure their own hysteria first.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/david-marcus-trump-derangement-syndrome-isnt-mental-illness-mass-hysteria
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Floyd Mayweather Jr said that nobody ever accused Trump of being a racist until Trump decided to run for President.
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Trump won´t connect directly with Tommy Robinson in the UK ( which i understand )
But Tommy has support from the US. ;)
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Good post, Coach.
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It's real.
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It's real.
It is. It should have a different name though in order to gain any type of mainstream traction in the DSM or whatever books decide this shit. It’s a byproduct of hating the man so much from the hard left that they scream about it and lash out like a teenager. I believe a lot of this crap we have going on, is direct push back towards him and his policies. Dude doesn’t do himself any favors though by being so abrasive.
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It is. It should have a different name though in order to gain any type of mainstream traction in the DSM or whatever books decide this shit. It’s a byproduct of hating the man so much from the hard left that they scream about it and lash out like a teenager. I believe a lot of this crap we have going on, is direct push back towards him and his policies. Dude doesn’t do himself any favors though by being so abrasive.
I think it' actually less about him and more about folks trying to feel a sense of community they are lacking, so they latch on to it. They are filling voids by concentrating their hate on one person.
Social media, bots, foreign adversaries and our own national media feed it, to manipulate willful idiots to cause division.
Of couse, he gives them the fuel they need, but even when he doesn't, they manfuacture it.
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I support Trump on his crypto stance.
But his constant 'tariff' announcements and then the war on Iran are not helping the markets.
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I support Trump on his crypto stance.
But his constant 'tariff' announcements and then the war on Iran are not helping the markets.
Not helping the markets? It certainly isn’t hurting them. One of the main indicators are the markets and all are at record highs.
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There's also another kind of TDS, Tucker Derangement Syndrome. Examples of those afflicted with the disease include president Trump, Laura Loomer, Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro and The Coach. No known cure at this time.
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Not helping the markets? It certainly isn’t hurting them. One of the main indicators are the markets and all are at record highs.
I support Trump on his crypto stance.
But his constant 'tariff' announcements and then the war on Iran are not helping the markets.
The markets I'm referring to.
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I don’t generally have it because (while progressive on “rich getting richer”, health care, and the planet), I am half way between Democrat and Republican on immigration, “woke” stuff, and foreign policy. But I suffered from TDS yesterday and was screaming inside my household and at TV and Internet over the “slush fund for punks” which hopefully the Republican Senators will put a stop to.
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I don’t generally have it because (while progressive on “rich getting richer”, health care, and the planet), I am half way between Democrat and Republican on immigration, “woke” stuff, and foreign policy. But I suffered from TDS yesterday and was screaming inside my household and at TV and Internet over the “slush fund for punks” which hopefully the Republican Senators will put a stop to.
That's not really TDS.
TDS is when you spend so much time focusing on someone you hate, to the point where you cannot even concede hard facts.
Watch most of the no kings protestors when they get asked questions.
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That's not really TDS.
TDS is when you spend so much time focusing on someone you hate, to the point where you cannot even concede hard facts.
Watch most of the no kings protestors when they get asked questions.
My sister has TDS and it affects my niece in a negative way (imo). I am not sure that I would say she has her facts wrong, it’s a compelling emotional thing. Does the definition require “having your facts wrong”?
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My sister has TDS and it affects my niece in a negative way (imo). I am not sure that I would say she has her facts wrong, it’s a compelling emotional thing. Does the definition require “having your facts wrong”?
I think that's just one of the symptoms.
Most around irrational behavior - dumping friends, etc....
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I think that's just one of the symptoms.
Most around irrational behavior - dumping friends, etc....
She definitely dumps people based on political views, I would lose my best friend (very conservative) if I did that.
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She definitely dumps people based on political views, I would lose my best friend (very conservative) if I did that.
Normal people don't do this.
It's mostly deranged leftist behavior.
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Normal people don't do this.
It's mostly deranged leftist behavior.
Maybe mainly on Left but I have conservatives in my circle who limit people they’ll date to only like minded. But I agree Left takes the “judgmental award” prize.
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The markets I'm referring to.
I see. Sorry
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These are the people talking about TDS.
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The real TDS is on the right as evidenced by this board. Any sort of meaningful TDS on the left especially these days is really marginal.
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The real TDS is on the right as evidenced by this board. Any sort of meaningful TDS on the left especially these days is really marginal.
Too late for you.
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/1549ef9f321d6a245b4abec88e25b121/tumblr_moz0rx8lzE1sqv808o1_250.gif)
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Too late for you.
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/1549ef9f321d6a245b4abec88e25b121/tumblr_moz0rx8lzE1sqv808o1_250.gif)
"I said my piece, Chrissy."
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The real TDS is on the right as evidenced by this board. Any sort of meaningful TDS on the left especially these days is really marginal.
Trump sucks, they all do. The amount of grown old ass men that look up to him and want to suck his shriveled old cock is mental illnesses in itself
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There's also another kind of TDS, Tucker Derangement Syndrome. Examples of those afflicted with the disease include president Trump, Laura Loomer, Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro and The Coach. No known cure at this time.
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Yes, he's great in primaries. He's only good in general elections though when he's on the ballot. He'll most likely lose reliable GOP seats because of the crackheads he used to unseat incumbents.
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These are the people talking about TDS.
Dude...YOU'RE talking about TDS with this post hahahaha
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Yes, he's great in primaries. He's only good in general elections though when he's on the ballot. He'll most likely lose reliable GOP seats because of the crackheads he used to unseat incumbents.
X2 Coach’s chart (above) is a derangement syndrome in itself, following one man over a cliff. Some will win those seats but a good many of them may lose. And it’s placing the Republican Party into a longer-term vise where it cannot go where it needs to go with Independent voters. “Independents” now actually are the majority of voters and they generally could not place a vote for “the crackheads” shown in the chart because independent voters are not registered Republicans.
In all fairness, Democrats are coming up with a set of losers too for the same reason. Democrats may sweep in this coming November, but they need to be thinking about their own “rainy day” down the road.
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Dude...YOU'RE talking about TDS with this post hahahaha
No, I am talking about people who are talking about TDS. Unlike your posting about posting effort.
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In all fairness, Democrats are coming up with a set of losers too for the same reason.
This has always been my issue.
They let TDS run their party, and aren't developing any level headed centrist types.
They had the opportunity to do a rebuild after the 2024 election, but they just keep doubling down.
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This has always been my issue.
They let TDS run their party, and aren't developing any level headed centrist types.
They had the opportunity to do a rebuild after the 2024 election, but they just keep doubling down.
As a Democrat, I worry about the same thing. The 2028 presidential choice will be the true test. If it’s only about Gaza, abolishing ICE, and trans rights, we’re doomed. If it’s about a balanced (and welcoming) view of immigration, respect for all segments of society, a “comprehensive” foreign policy (not just hate of Russia and Israel) and stresses INCOME FAIRNESS and HEALTH CARE above all else, then we’re the winners. Plus respecting that the conservative strand in our history, and our conservative friends and family, are worthy of respect.
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As a Democrat, I worry about the same thing. The 2028 presidential choice will be the true test. If it’s only about Gaza, abolishing ICE, and trans rights, we’re doomed. If it’s about a balanced (and welcoming) view of immigration, respect for all segments of society, a “comprehensive” foreign policy (not just hate of Russia and Israel) and stresses INCOME FAIRNESS and HEALTH CARE above all else, then we’re the winners. Plus respecting that the conservative strand in our history, and our conservative friends and family, are worthy of respect.
WTF is "income fairness"? So far all I see if dems running on fighting Trump. Pretty sad showing on both sides. Really need to get the faggots and racist back to the center.
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WTF is "income fairness"? So far all I see if dems running on fighting Trump. Pretty sad showing on both sides. Really need to get the faggots and racist back to the center.
X2. What is “income fairness”?
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No doubt vague but I look at it as whatever makes sense to deal with the issue of increasing income inequality in our society (some say wildly increasing). Here’s one way to think about it. When the following question is asked in a poll of Americans, Answer #2 comes out on top (and it’s the one I would select):
Which of the following corresponds to your own view of best economic policy:
1. Socialism
2. Capitalism with guard-rails
3. Capitalism
A scary number of young Americans are selecting socialism in the poll and we know which one Trump and the oligarchs adhere to.
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Trump on Truth Social: I will send 5000 troops to Poland
Poland: this is the first we've heard of it
Funny guy. I don't know if I have TDS. I don't fume, I laugh.
X2 Coach’s chart (above) is a derangement syndrome in itself, following one man over a cliff.
5D chess baby. It's not lying, it's keeping them guessing, keep your real plan close to the chest. "Negotiate" then bomb suddenly in the middle of said negotiation.
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No doubt vague but I look at it as whatever makes sense to deal with the issue of increasing income inequality in our society (some say wildly increasing). Here’s one way to think about it. When the following question is asked in a poll of Americans, Answer #2 comes out on top (and it’s the one I would select):
Which of the following corresponds to your own view of best economic policy:
1. Socialism
2. Capitalism with guard-rails
3. Capitalism
A scary number of young Americans are selecting socialism in the poll and we know which one Trump and the oligarchs adhere to.
What does that even mean? Income inequality? And what is capitalism with guard rails? This sounds bad, like you want the government to control peoples income.
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The TDS people don't even seem to know why they hate him. They can't articulate it, or they'll accuse him of something that simply isn't true. It's very strange. AKA Magaphobia.
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What does that even mean? Income inequality? And what is capitalism with guard rails? This sounds bad, like you want the government to control peoples income.
I think capitalism with guard rails simply means that some services aren't to be for profit. Military, police, education and most importantly health care.
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WTF is "income fairness"? So far all I see if dems running on fighting Trump. Pretty sad showing on both sides. Really need to get the faggots and racist back to the center.
It’s the free shit army. Affordability for lattes and Uber Eats. Housing is a problem, but very high cost of living urban areas have been unaffordable for decades.
They’re running Vegan Tacos in Texas!
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If the lefties weren’t enraged you’d think Donald had lost his touch.
He will have to pass this ability onto someone else I’d think.
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No, I am talking about people who are talking about TDS. Unlike your posting about posting effort.
Brutal posting about posting about posting effort
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How do you guys feel about the corruption wrt the stock market? Polymarket bets coming in 10 minutes before Trump makes an announcement, them making quick profits of hundreds of millions.. Trump talking about companies he just invested in. Barron is apparently already a billionaire! Not to mention the deal Trump made with the IRS. Unbelievable, this all sounds very corrupt to me but what do you guys think?
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How do you guys feel about the corruption wrt the stock market? Polymarket bets coming in 10 minutes before Trump makes an announcement, them making quick profits of hundreds of millions.. Trump talking about companies he just invested in. Barron is apparently already a billionaire! Not to mention the deal Trump made with the IRS. Unbelievable, this all sounds very corrupt to me but what do you guys think?
I don't like "every time" a Politician does this. Biden, Pelosi, Trump, etc... You think this is a first?? Or is it just typical TDS?
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I don't like "every time" a Politician does this. Biden, Pelosi, Trump, etc... You think this is a first?? Or is it just typical TDS?
Of course he's not alone. Lots of people have brought up how mysteriously congress members on both sides are wealthy with successful stock portfolios while their salary is modest. So I don't mean to say this exclusive to Trump, however it seems like this is more in-your-face and not hidden, they don't even try. Just absolutely shameless corruption. Didn't Trump also have a failed bitcoin? Trump was against bitcoin in the past but now his family has made a billion dollars from it if I'm not mistaken, didn't fact check. You have these scams with the "American made" Chinese gold Trump pre-ordered and pre-paid phones never delivered and many similar scams like his made in China bibles. The question is is it positive that Trump is so open about this and other things like saying "we will just take their oil" without any other fake justifications. Maybe. He does lie like other presidents in other cases, like saying we must bomb Iran to liberate the people and stop their nuke program instead of saying it's for Israel and against China.
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Of course he's not alone. Lots of people have brought up how mysteriously congress members on both sides are wealthy with successful stock portfolios while their salary is modest. So I don't mean to say this exclusive to Trump, however it seems like this is more in-your-face and not hidden, they don't even try. Just absolutely shameless corruption. Didn't Trump also have a failed bitcoin? Trump was against bitcoin in the past but now his family has made a billion dollars from it if I'm not mistaken, didn't fact check. You have these scams with the "American made" Chinese gold Trump pre-ordered and pre-paid phones never delivered and many similar scams like his made in China bibles. The question is is it positive that Trump is so open about this and other things like saying "we will just take their oil" without any other fake justifications. Maybe. He does lie like other presidents in other cases, like saying we must bomb Iran to liberate the people and stop their nuke program instead of saying it's for Israel and against China.
You’d think you could put it all in the pyramid chamber with you like the Egyptians did when they died. It boils down to very sad. How about a bitcoin wing at the new Cairo museum next to King Tut?
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Brutal posting about posting about posting effort
Epic posting about posting about the post of the posting attempt.
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You’d think you could put it all in the pyramid chamber with you like the Egyptians did when they died. It boils down to very sad. How about a bitcoin wing at the new Cairo museum next to King Tut?
Do you think he's thinking about his kids or what's the motivation for being so greedy at this age?
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It's all "team sport" politics. People support their party no matter what while accusing the other side of being evil.
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How do you guys feel about the corruption wrt the stock market? Polymarket bets coming in 10 minutes before Trump makes an announcement, them making quick profits of hundreds of millions.. Trump talking about companies he just invested in. Barron is apparently already a billionaire! Not to mention the deal Trump made with the IRS. Unbelievable, this all sounds very corrupt to me but what do you guys think?
It's all a grift. US politics is like sports and team owners. The trade around control of the country like they trade championships in sports, and they all make a boatload doing it, and occasionally throw the fans a bone like a free bat or tax rebate.
They'll never do anything about the insider trading because they're all in on it. If you don't leave US politics worth close or over 8 figures, you've failed somewhere.
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I think capitalism with guard rails simply means that some services aren't to be for profit. Military, police, education and most importantly health care.
I’d go even further. I agree with what you’ve posted, but I think there needs to be systems in place to stop the exploitation of the worker. Not just a union, or a “benevolent owner” but something else to put a cap on profits without regard for workers. Take Jeff Bezos, while I agree that he took all the risk getting his company started and probably ate ramen noodles while getting it going, at this point he’s just leveraging his buying power and underpaying his employees. How does one have a fucking space ship, a yacht with a tender over 100’ long and still think you’re doing good for the world. And I wouldn’t put Elon in this category, because he is driving innovation that will help us in future space exploration, he’s built internet for everyone and all the other things he’s done. He also doesn’t seem like as greedy a prick as Bezos.
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I’d go even further. I agree with what you’ve posted, but I think there needs to be systems in place to stop the exploitation of the worker. Not just a union, or a “benevolent owner” but something else to put a cap on profits without regard for workers. Take Jeff Bezos, while I agree that he took all the risk getting his company started and probably ate ramen noodles while getting it going, at this point he’s just leveraging his buying power and underpaying his employees. How does one have a fucking space ship, a yacht with a tender over 100’ long and still think you’re doing good for the world. And I wouldn’t put Elon in this category, because he is driving innovation that will help us in future space exploration, he’s built internet for everyone and all the other things he’s done. He also doesn’t seem like as greedy a prick as Bezos.
Amazon pays 8%+ more than market for warehouse work, or so I thought. I had looked into it for a family member and that's what I recall.
Yes, the work is repetitive and high paced, but where are you getting the underpay data?
Did something change in what they offer?
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It's all a grift. US politics is like sports and team owners. The trade around control of the country like they trade championships in sports, and they all make a boatload doing it, and occasionally throw the fans a bone like a free bat or tax rebate.
They'll never do anything about the insider trading because they're all in on it. If you don't leave US politics worth close or over 8 figures, you've failed somewhere.
Sounds like good work - if you can get it.
Onlyfans or politics? Which is better for the soul?
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Amazon pays 8%+ more than market for warehouse work, or so I thought. I had looked into it for a family member and that's what I recall.
Yes, the work is repetitive and high paced, but where are you getting the underpay data?
Did something change in what they offer?
They make about $35,000 a year here, the warehouse workers. I’m not sure what that means to you, but it’s below the average household income here and is about $3.50 less an hour than I start my laborers out at. I’m going to go all commie on you right now, but I just believe a company like that can “do better”. I’m not one to think minimum wage should be $15 an hour, because those types of jobs working in fact food are not meant for single parents with multiple kids to live off of, they’re for high school kids. The wealth gap that gets talked about is for shit like an amazon or whatever other large conglomerate exploits their workers.
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They make about $35,000 a year here, the warehouse workers. I’m not sure what that means to you, but it’s below the average household income here and is about $3.50 less an hour than I start my laborers out at. I’m going to go all commie on you right now, but I just believe a company like that can “do better”. I’m not one to think minimum wage should be $15 an hour, because those types of jobs working in fact food are not meant for single parents with multiple kids to live off of, they’re for high school kids. The wealth gap that gets talked about is for shit like an amazon or whatever other large conglomerate exploits their workers.
There is no magic here. The pros and cons of each and every policy change need to be weighed. A lot of them are complicated, for example rent control. So you freeze the rents and then the developers stop building and small time landlords steer clear, and then supply freezes and the homeless sleeping in their cars go on the rise.
But does that mean you forget about the fact that hardly any young people can purchase homes any more.
I do call this “the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer”
I just hunger for politicians who give a shit (not condescending oligarchs who know it all) and who discuss and debate.
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I remembered this. Doesn't sound good for the soul either.
AI:
"Amazon explicitly allows bathroom breaks, but intense delivery quotas and strict warehouse tracking systems often make taking them incredibly difficult. Workers report avoiding or delaying bathroom breaks to meet stringent performance metrics.
Warehouse Workers
The Policy: Associates can use the restroom when needed, but they must clock out for "Time Off Task" (TOT) or use allocated break times.The Reality: Workers are tracked via scanners and AI algorithms. Extended breaks to walk to distant bathrooms can be flagged by the system, leading to disciplinary meetings or questions from managers.
Adjustments: Following criticism, Amazon adjusted its TOT policies to average pauses over a longer period to reduce false flagging."
I certainly couldn't do it with my enlarged prostate.
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I was just outside a Target in Florida (VERY HOT DAY) and read a sign that said, “you are not allowed to come through this employee door - and NEVER come through the main doors - more than 5 minutes early. You need to wait in your car.”
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Trump isn’t trading any stocks. That’s stupid. It’s all institutional and anyone with a brain can see which way things are going. The stock market is at an all time high. He’s making many many many working people much richer.
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They make about $35,000 a year here, the warehouse workers. I’m not sure what that means to you, but it’s below the average household income here and is about $3.50 less an hour than I start my laborers out at. I’m going to go all commie on you right now, but I just believe a company like that can “do better”. I’m not one to think minimum wage should be $15 an hour, because those types of jobs working in fact food are not meant for single parents with multiple kids to live off of, they’re for high school kids. The wealth gap that gets talked about is for shit like an amazon or whatever other large conglomerate exploits their workers.
These are BS numbers thrown out there for discussion purposes, so take with a big grain of salt.
If they have 900k warehouse folks (estimated), a 3.50 per hour increase would be, roughly, 6.5B more in payroll alone annually.
I'd have to think that has some impact or downstream effect (I don't know much about their financials). So, it's easy to say, but I don't know the feasibility.
But I also do think the wage gap is getting crazy due to tech, and there is a major issue in young folks entering the market and home affordability, especially here in the northeast. It's easy for folks to say "go live somewhere else" but that's not always an option.
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They make about $35,000 a year here, the warehouse workers. I’m not sure what that means to you, but it’s below the average household income here and is about $3.50 less an hour than I start my laborers out at. I’m going to go all commie on you right now, but I just believe a company like that can “do better”. I’m not one to think minimum wage should be $15 an hour, because those types of jobs working in fact food are not meant for single parents with multiple kids to live off of, they’re for high school kids. The wealth gap that gets talked about is for shit like an amazon or whatever other large conglomerate exploits their workers.
$17.50 for entry level unskilled is great. It ain’t for raising families nor should it be.
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They make about $35,000 a year here, the warehouse workers. I’m not sure what that means to you, but it’s below the average household income here and is about $3.50 less an hour than I start my laborers out at. I’m going to go all commie on you right now, but I just believe a company like that can “do better”. I’m not one to think minimum wage should be $15 an hour, because those types of jobs working in fact food are not meant for single parents with multiple kids to live off of, they’re for high school kids. The wealth gap that gets talked about is for shit like an amazon or whatever other large conglomerate exploits their workers.
good post also i worked with a girl that had worked at a amazon wharehouse, and she wasnt lazy she told me they run them like animals and there is no mercy
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At what point would you guys think the government should step in and take control of your companies finances?
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At what point would you guys think the government should step in and take control of your companies finances?
I have no strong opinion here. But I have seen some commentators say US and European arms manufacturing would be more effective if it was nationalized and the gov took over. More a Russian model. I forgot all the reasons they they listed but they claimed the private US arms manufacturers actually benefited by making the production slower and more expensive. I know you don't believe there is a missile shortage but let's say there were - what do you think about nationalizing the arms production? Absolutely not, in any situation? Like I said, I have no strong opinion but I would probably leave ideology behind and do what was best in any particular situation. Not wedded to any particular ideology if it's a hindrance.
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I have no strong opinion here. But I have seen some commentators say US and European arms manufacturing would be more effective if it was nationalized and the gov took over. More a Russian model. I forgot all the reasons they they listed but they claimed the private US arms manufacturers actually benefited by making the production slower and more expensive. I know you don't believe there is a missile shortage but let's say there were - what do you think about nationalizing the arms production? Absolutely not, in any situation? Like I said, I have no strong opinion but I would probably leave ideology behind and do what was best in any particular situation. Not wedded to any particular ideology if it's a hindrance.
Nationalizing? There's still people in there making arms right? Still automation, robotics, people and materials required. The government is the most inefficient manufacturer ever. There is no reason for arms manufacturers to slow down their manufacturing. They get no benefit from it since the gov will buy from whoever produces first. I could go into why private US arms manufacturers hit a peak production if you'd like?
Not sure what that has to do with people calling for a cap on what business owners should make financially from their business?
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It's all a grift. US politics is like sports and team owners. The trade around control of the country like they trade championships in sports, and they all make a boatload doing it, and occasionally throw the fans a bone like a free bat or tax rebate.
They'll never do anything about the insider trading because they're all in on it. If you don't leave US politics worth close or over 8 figures, you've failed somewhere.
This. After Trump turned heel, I’m officially black pilled.
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Nationalizing? There's still people in there making arms right? Still automation, robotics, people and materials required. The government is the most inefficient manufacturer ever. There is no reason for arms manufacturers to slow down their manufacturing. They get no benefit from it since the gov will buy from whoever produces first. I could go into why private US arms manufacturers hit a peak production if you'd like?
Not sure what that has to do with people calling for a cap on what business owners should make financially from their business?
Agree governments would not do a good job of manufacturing arms and in the USA they would turn it over to private companies anyway (look at NASA). Let’s start with health care (at least more regulated than now) ahead of arms manufacturing. Also prisons and detention centers should always be local government and NOT outsourced, or federal prisons in the case of immigration or federal crimes.
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Personally I think the current Trump supporters are like the old liberal left in their fanatism :D
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Personally I think the current Trump supporters are like the old liberal left in their fanatism :D
And they’re all part of the same/worst generation whose parents were the best generation.
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Nationalizing? There's still people in there making arms right? Still automation, robotics, people and materials required. The government is the most inefficient manufacturer ever. There is no reason for arms manufacturers to slow down their manufacturing. They get no benefit from it since the gov will buy from whoever produces first. I could go into why private US arms manufacturers hit a peak production if you'd like?
Not sure what that has to do with people calling for a cap on what business owners should make financially from their business?
Well I thought you guys also were arguing about government putting their noses in what businesses do generally, but maybe not. But anyway, too lazy to look up the exact numbers again now, but Russia produces arms (at least certain ones) at a rate of NATO, US included, combined three times over each year, or something like that. China I haven't looked up. Like I said, I don't know much about this except what I've heard and I've heard arguments that this is thanks to nationalization of manufacturing in Russia, at least to a large part. In Europe Kaja Kallas and other bureaucrats demand manufacturers like Rheinmetall drastically ramp up production without signed contracts which Rheinmetall balks at of course. Currently Kaja wonders why nothing is happening despite money being poured in :D Experts say it will take 10 years before you see the increased arms production yield results - if they nationalize while also contracting civilian companies. Infrastructure has to be built and so on.
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Well I thought you guys also were arguing about government putting their noses in what businesses do generally, but maybe not.
Government overreach into private business is already too much, I can't believe there's people here asking for the government to have more control.
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Personally I think the current Trump supporters are like the old liberal left in their fanatism :D
More like insane
Like a certain poster on here
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More like insane
Like a certain every poster on here
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And they’re all part of the same/worst generation whose parents were the best generation.
Their parents were actually brainwashed idiots who didn't question authority.