California is totally F % & K E D under Democrats

[Primemuscle]

Is it really though? Voter ID might help expose the democrats lies.

What lies would you like to see exposed? Is it a lie that California is an extremely liberal state? In December of 2025 only about a quarter of the voters in California were registered Republicans. BTW, I have no issues with requiring voter ID regardless of what state we are talking about.

[Dos Equis]

And just like that, a third place finisher on election day obtains a statistically improbable number votes days after the election to move just where she needs to be to qualify for a runoff.  If all the votes were counted on election day (instead of election week/month) this wouldn't look nearly as suspicious. 

I feel sorry for you folks who live California. 

[chaos]

And just like that, a third place finisher on election day obtains a statistically improbable number votes days after the election to move just where she needs to be to qualify for a runoff.  If all the votes were counted on election day (instead of election week/month) this wouldn't look nearly as suspicious. 

I feel sorry for you folks who live California.

Why do you suppose the count stays open in CA until dems start winning? There is so much shady shit going on in CA. This state needs an enema.

[Dos Equis]

Why do you suppose the count stays open in CA until dems start winning? There is so much shady shit going on in CA. This state needs an enema.

It's unreal.  The frustrating part is it's very hard to prove actual fraud. 

But I know exactly how it can happen.  I probably mentioned this on here before, but I recall visiting someone in California during the recall election for Newsom when Larry Elder was running and this house had like ten ballots.  They were all addressed to different people, but there was nothing stopping me or anyone else from scooping them up, filling them out, and dropping them in the mail.  Crazy system. 

We have the same problem here.  Everyone gets a ballot by mail.  I've gotten multiple ballots at my house.  But I'm old school and always vote at the polls on election day.  And it's not much of an overall issue here because Republicans have zero shot to win pretty anything, so they don't need to cheat to stay blue. 

[Primemuscle]

It's unreal.  The frustrating part is it's very hard to prove actual fraud. 

But I know exactly how it can happen.  I probably mentioned this on here before, but I recall visiting someone in California during the recall election for Newsom when Larry Elder was running and this house had like ten ballots.  They were all addressed to different people, but there was nothing stopping me or anyone else from scooping them up, filling them out, and dropping them in the mail.  Crazy system. 

We have the same problem here.  Everyone gets a ballot by mail.  I've gotten multiple ballots at my house.  But I'm old school and always vote at the polls on election day.  And it's not much of an overall issue here because Republicans have zero shot to win pretty anything, so they don't need to cheat to stay blue.

Do they not verify signatures on ballots in California. Forging another person's signature on a ballot is illegal.

California law:

Corruption of Voting – Fraud or Impersonation
existing law prohibits a person from applying for, voting for or attempting to vote, a vote by mail ballot by fraudulently signing the name of a fictitious person, or of a regularly qualified voter, or of a person who is not qualified to vote. Existing law provides that a person who violates the prohibition is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for 16 months or 2 or 3 years, by a fine not exceeding $1,000, or by both that fine and imprisonment.

As with other laws, if you committed signature fraud on ten ballots, you could be charged for each ballot, (imprisonment for 160 months and a fine of $10,000). If this isn't enough to stop you from doing this, you have some serious issues with being a criminal and obeying the law. 

[jude2]

I listened to a women call in this morning to the radio show and claims she has 4 voters in her home.  2 Rep 1 indep and 1 dem.  She said her daughter the dem was the only one to receive a mail in voter form for the past five elections.    I also saw a video of someone paying a homeless guys $2 dollars to sign a women name to a ballot.  It is insane there.

[Dos Equis]

Do they not verify signatures on ballots in California. Forging another person's signature on a ballot is illegal.

California law:

Corruption of Voting – Fraud or Impersonation
existing law prohibits a person from applying for, voting for or attempting to vote, a vote by mail ballot by fraudulently signing the name of a fictitious person, or of a regularly qualified voter, or of a person who is not qualified to vote. Existing law provides that a person who violates the prohibition is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for 16 months or 2 or 3 years, by a fine not exceeding $1,000, or by both that fine and imprisonment.

As with other laws, if you committed signature fraud on ten ballots, you could be charged for each ballot, (imprisonment for 160 months and a fine of $10,000). If this isn't enough to stop you from doing this, you have some serious issues with being a criminal and obeying the law.

You mean a law prohibiting someone from doing something will stop them from breaking the law? 

*In my best John McEnroe voice* You cannot be serious!

[Dos Equis]

I listened to a women call in this morning to the radio show and claims she has 4 voters in her home.  2 Rep 1 indep and 1 dem.  She said her daughter the dem was the only one to receive a mail in voter form for the past five elections.    I also saw a video of someone paying a homeless guys $2 dollars to sign a women name to a ballot.  It is insane there.

Sending millions of ballots to peoples' houses and letting them be counted for days or weeks after the election.  What could go wrong? 

[chaos]

Do they not verify signatures on ballots in California.

How would they do that?

[Primemuscle]

How would they do that?

How accurate the detection process is, I have no idea.

Dos suggested he could have easily mailed or dropped in ballot drop boxes ten ballots with his forged signatures. And given the remote possibility that no one receiving those ballots or those the ballots would have noticed or cared that this had happened, seems like a colossal stretch just to prove a point.

If you really want to know, check how ballot signatures are checked out for yourself. Here are just a couple of examples how ballots are validated. 

https://evans.uw.edu/nova-highlights-research-by-epic-on-ballot-rejection-rates/

https://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/regulations/current-regulations/elections/signature-verification-ballot-processing-and-ballot-counting-emergency-regulations

Do I think that no one could ever be dumb enough to forge the signature on mail-in ballots? Unfortunately, I am fairly sure there are a few who are. Do I believe there are enough folks willing to risk the legal consequences of being caught doing this with the outside hope of swaying an election? I believe this is extremely unlikely.

I have no doubt that you will continue buy into whatever suits your agenda. And I am aware that nothing I tell you or proof I offer you will change what you want to believe.

[chaos]

How accurate the detection process is, I have no idea.

Dos suggested he could have easily mailed or dropped in ballot drop boxes ten ballots with his forged signatures. And given the remote possibility that no one receiving those ballots or those the ballots would have noticed or cared that this had happened, seems like a colossal stretch just to prove a point.

If you really want to know, check how ballot signatures are checked out for yourself. Here are just a couple of examples how ballots are validated. 

https://evans.uw.edu/nova-highlights-research-by-epic-on-ballot-rejection-rates/

https://www.sos.ca.gov/administration/regulations/current-regulations/elections/signature-verification-ballot-processing-and-ballot-counting-emergency-regulations

Do I think that no one could ever be dumb enough to forge the signature on mail-in ballots? Unfortunately, I am fairly sure there are a few who are. Do I believe there are enough folks willing to risk the legal consequences of being caught doing this with the outside hope of swaying an election? I believe this is extremely unlikely.

I have no doubt that you will continue buy into whatever suits your agenda. And I am aware that nothing I tell you or proof I offer you will change what you want to believe.

Did you read that? There, in writing, the signatures do not need to match. LMAO. Like I've said before, I get multiple ballots sent to my house of people that I've never heard of. I could easily have voted with those extra ballots and thrown any signature on there, who would know? How would anyone prove it? Ahhhh no cheating by democrats....lol 

[illuminati]

Did you read that? There, in writing, the signatures do not need to match. LMAO. Like I've said before, I get multiple ballots sent to my house of people that I've never heard of. I could easily have voted with those extra ballots and thrown any signature on there, who would know? How would anyone prove it? Ahhhh no cheating by democrats....lol 

He along with the other Loony Leftists doesn't care as long as
it benefits the the cheating DummyCraps.

[Primemuscle]

Did you read that? There, in writing, the signatures do not need to match. LMAO. Like I've said before, I get multiple ballots sent to my house of people that I've never heard of. I could easily have voted with those extra ballots and thrown any signature on there, who would know? How would anyone prove it? Ahhhh no cheating by democrats....lol 

If you truly believe you can get away with forging the signatures on those multiple ballots which are sent to your house, why not prove it? I dare you. November 3, 2026, is your opportunity to prove voter fraud is successful.

In the past 60+ years, not when I lived in California nor since I have lived in Oregon, have I ever gotten a ballot for someone not living in my house. I know a lot of people, none of which has complained or said that they have received ballots for unknow people. From my perspective, you are an anomaly. 

[chaos]

If you truly believe you can get away with forging the signatures on those multiple ballots which are sent to your house, why not prove it? I dare you. November 3, 2026, is your opportunity to prove voter fraud is successful.

In the past 60+ years, not when I lived in California nor since I have lived in Oregon, have I ever gotten a ballot for someone not living in my house. I know a lot of people, none of which has complained or said that they have received ballots for unknow people. From my perspective, you are an anomaly.

IF I was to do something like that, do you think I would come to getbig and admit to that crime? I personally know 3 other people that get former residents ballots at their address. One of them being a married democrat couple. Your tiny little piece of the gated community is not representative of the vast majority of the country.

[Primemuscle]

IF I was to do something like that, do you think I would come to getbig and admit to that crime? I personally know 3 other people that get former residents ballots at their address. One of them being a married democrat couple. Your tiny little piece of the gated community is not representative of the vast majority of the country.

The point is not how many ballots are missent or how often voter lists are purged of inactive voters. The point is that the majority of folks are not stupid or dishonest enough to risk forging ballots.

Have you or any of those other folks you know marked these ballots with the notation that the person is no longer at this address?

I stopped getting ballots for my wife in the same year that she passed. I believe her death certificate triggered this happening.

Oregon: Not later than five business days after receiving a report of death under ORS 432.133 (Mandatory submission and registration of reports of death), a county registrar designated under ORS 432.035 (County registrars) shall furnish to the county clerk of that county the name, age, date of birth and residence address of the person for whom the registrar has received the report of death. If the person was registered to vote in the county, the county clerk immediately shall cancel the registration of the person.
ORS 247.570 – Notice of deaths to Secretary of State and county clerk; effect of notice

Voter Registration Cancellation: The California Department of Health ( CDPH) routinely sends this statewide vital data to the Secretary of State. The VoteCal system cross-references these death records and shares updates directly with your county Registrar of Voters to proactively cancel the deceased person’s voter registration.
Apparently, there are a lot of unreported deaths in your area or the CDPH is not doing their job and reporting them.
 

[chaos]

The point is not how many ballots are missent or how often voter lists are purged of inactive voters. The point is that the majority of folks are not stupid or dishonest enough to risk forging ballots.
 

The point is you're wrong. Especially when they are paying or giving gifts to anyone on the streets to fill out and sign ballots. 
Now let's see what a federal investigation will uncover.

[Dos Equis]

Swalwell got 27,038 votes.

https://dp.electionresults.sos.ca.gov/returns/governor

[Primemuscle]

The point is you're wrong. Especially when they are paying or giving gifts to anyone on the streets to fill out and sign ballots. 
Now let's see what a federal investigation will uncover.

What does encouraging people to vote have to do with ballots which were wrongly mailed to you and your friends, or to do with criminal idiots forging ballots? The only connection is paying someone to vote or not vote? Anyway, how does this work? It is not like people are walking around with their ballots in their pockets just waiting for someone to come along and tell them to fill out and sign their ballots.

It is not unusual, illegal, or wrong for canvassers and bankers to encourage folks to vote even when it is for a particular political candidate.  It's called "get out the vote." Getting out the vote is not limited to one group of people or political party. All parties and candidates canvass for votes.

[chaos]

What does encouraging people to vote have to do with ballots which were wrongly mailed to you and your friends, or to do with criminal idiots forging ballots? The only connection is paying someone to vote or not vote? Anyway, how does this work? It is not like people are walking around with their ballots in their pockets just waiting for someone to come along and tell them to fill out and sign their ballots.

It is not unusual, illegal, or wrong for canvassers and bankers to encourage folks to vote even when it is for a particular political candidate.  It's called "get out the vote." Getting out the vote is not limited to one group of people or political party. All parties and candidates canvass for votes.

"Encouraging people to vote" LMFAO!!! That's quite the liberal media spin you put on that.

[Primemuscle]

"Encouraging people to vote" LMFAO!!! That's quite the liberal media spin you put on that.

I take it that you have never campaigned for or against politicians regardless of party affiliation or proposed legislative bills or citizen submitted ballot initiatives.

[chaos]

I take it that you have never campaigned for or against politicians regardless of party affiliation or proposed legislative bills or citizen submitted ballot initiatives.

Are you admitting to paying people to sign other peoples names on ballots and calling it "campaigning"?

[Dos Equis]

Did I hear correctly that mail-in ballots don't need a postmark and that a person can sign the ballot using an X or checkmark? 

[chaos]

Did I hear correctly that mail-in ballots don't need a postmark and that a person can sign the ballot using an X or checkmark?

100%
And the signatures don't need to match. Someone else can sign for you as a witness if you are incapable of signing. It's a gigantic scam, rigged for the democrats. That's why Newscum keeps stopping investigations and passing "laws".

[Primemuscle]

Did I hear correctly that mail-in ballots don't need a postmark and that a person can sign the ballot using an X or checkmark?

This is correct. Mail in ballots do not need a postmark. This is why.

You may return your voted ballot by any of the below listed choices.

By drop box
Drop off your completed ballot in the return envelope at a secure official drop box in your county at any time between May 5 through the close of polls on June 2.

In person
Drop your completed ballot in the return envelope off at a secure drop box, polling place, vote center, or county elections office by 8:00 p.m. on June 2. Voting locations will be available in all counties before Election Day. Voting locations offer voter registration, replacement ballots, accessible voting machines, and language assistance.

By mail
Return your ballot by mail as soon as you receive it. Mailed ballots must be postmarked on or before Election Day and received not later than 7 days after Election Day. To ensure your ballot is postmarked by Election Day make sure to mail it at least five days before Election Day, June 2, 2026. If mailing on Election Day, get a hand-stamped postmark from a postal employee inside a United States Post Office.

https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voter-registration/vote-mail

Again, you are correct. In California there are options available for folks with disabilities that make it impossible for them to sign a ballot. One of those options is signing with an X. But there are some requirements which must be met.

X mark option
California law has a backup for voters who cannot sign their name.

"You're supposed to put a mark, typically an X, on the signature line. Have someone print your name next to the mark. But then that person also needs to sign the vote by mail envelope," Spencer said.

A signature stamp is another option, though it requires a trip to the county elections office to register the stamp ahead of time.


https://www.capradio.org/articles/2026/05/27/when-a-signature-is-a-barrier-california-offers-voters-a-way-through/

[Dos Equis]

100%
And the signatures don't need to match. Someone else can sign for you as a witness if you are incapable of signing. It's a gigantic scam, rigged for the democrats. That's why Newscum keeps stopping investigations and passing "laws".

Holy smokes.  That is absolutely ridiculous.  You combine that with ballot harvesting and you have a recipe for rigging an election.  Banana Republic stuff.

I'd really like to know how many mail-in ballots don't have a postmark and how many have an X "signature."