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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2325 on: May 15, 2026, 08:28:00 AM »
All the other countries that are in conflict with nukes seem to have not nuked each other. You think Iran isn't aware of mutually assured destruction?

People blow themselves up over there all the time for martyrdom.

They don't think like normal folks.

Fanatics don't care about mutual destruction.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2326 on: May 15, 2026, 08:58:58 AM »
People blow themselves up over there all the time for martyrdom.

They don't think like normal folks.

Fanatics don't care about mutual destruction.

That's beyond Pronoun Boy's comprehension.  ::)

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2327 on: May 15, 2026, 09:55:22 AM »
People blow themselves up over there all the time for martyrdom.

They don't think like normal folks.

Fanatics don't care about mutual destruction.

Dude, you guys are like two steps away from being fanatics. Some of the christian right are absolutely looney.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2328 on: May 15, 2026, 09:58:56 AM »
That's beyond Pronoun Boy's comprehension.  ::)

Ya because of all the high tech suicide martyrs that have existed. Using fucking dirty bombs and actual planes. You think they would have access to the fucking nukes? lol grow a brain.

The only country that has used a nuke is the US. They aren't retarded ffs. You guys are acting like they are some form of sub-human species instead of a civilization that has existed for a long time.

You have probably never been there or anywhere close to it I reckon. If north korea can have nukes, Iran can have nukes. Funny how you guys wouldn't start this shit with north korea because they would nuke you if you did lol. Kinda proves Irans point.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2329 on: May 15, 2026, 10:06:17 AM »
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/05/15/20-years-is-enough-trump-puts-a-timeline-on-limiting-irans-nuclear-program-00923100?utm_campaign=RSS_Syndication&utm_medium=RSS&utm_source=RSS_Feed


By Alex Gangitano05/15/2026 08:37 AM EDT

BEIJING — President Donald Trump on Friday said a 20-year moratorium on Iran’s nuclear program would be enough for him to strike a deal and end the war.
The allowance for Iran to enrich uranium at any point in the future — even decades out — marks a shift for the president, who has repeatedly insisted that the country never be allowed to do so.
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2330 on: May 15, 2026, 10:07:55 AM »
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/05/15/20-years-is-enough-trump-puts-a-timeline-on-limiting-irans-nuclear-program-00923100?utm_campaign=RSS_Syndication&utm_medium=RSS&utm_source=RSS_Feed


By Alex Gangitano05/15/2026 08:37 AM EDT

BEIJING — President Donald Trump on Friday said a 20-year moratorium on Iran’s nuclear program would be enough for him to strike a deal and end the war.
The allowance for Iran to enrich uranium at any point in the future — even decades out — marks a shift for the president, who has repeatedly insisted that the country never be allowed to do so.

He’ll be dead by then, what does he care?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2331 on: May 15, 2026, 10:31:41 AM »
Ahhh yes.   Civilians die in war and strikes.  Sad.  But a fact.    Another sad fact is that you don't seem to understand my accurate intelligence comment is relative to why we are doing it in the first place.  WMD claims?  Well that wasn't very accurate was it?  Ask Bush.   Nuclear weapons?  That is not very accurate when we "decimated" their program a year before is it?

GAYaos avoiding an IQ over his shoe size like he avoids heterosexuality and low carbs.

Ok, please explain the “accurate intelligence” that lead to the decision made by the Obama administration to repeatedly strike the Kunduz Hospital.  To a simpleton like me it seems like a war crime but I’m willing to have my mind changed.


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2332 on: May 15, 2026, 10:32:36 AM »
Well that would be assuming the reason they went there was legit, which I don't believe it was. If the initial reports were correct and they wiped out there nuclear program then I can't see how such a colossal failure of intelligence could occur where only a year later they are two weeks away when they indicated they were decades away.

Say they are that close to nuclear bombs, I would think a co-ordinated planned attack with our allies with contingencies for the straight amongst other things would have been apt. They rushed in with no plan and haven't achieved the nebulous objectives they haven't clearly elucidated. Overwhelming might with proper co-ordination and retrival of the enriched uranium (they don't appear to know where it is) with boots on the ground. I don't see how this has helped in any fashion. They don't have the uranium, they don't have a regime change and they appear to have been unprepared for the straights closure (or miscalculated).

The proper solution ime would likely be economic relief, lifting of sanctions, fostering good will and giving them something in return for reducing nuclear proliferation- that is what is going to happen now anyway. Obama's plan did at the time remove about 95% of the uranium, how that turned out is another question.I dont see how you can ask them to not have nukes when there mortal enemy does and sanction and economically devastate them at every turn.

So I think in all there were two options and they decided on rushing in (citing 2 weeks away which I think is silly) with no contingency and asking for help retroactively which is absurd. It was impulsive and directly related to your leaders capricious nature. He fired all the people that said it was a bad idea like a lunatic and went ahead anyway because HE wants to get the glory for "stopping" iran, he wants cuba, he wants more land....

Essentially, act like a rational, calculated adult instead of a tough guy teenage boy showing how macho he is.


If you are talking about the straight, suffer the defeat and start with concessions to get this saga over with and stop crippling the world economy. This shit is going to get worse and will last for well over a year. Iran can persist based on predictions for 6 months to a year with no oil going out, that would devastate the world economy. Even then, I am sure as that deadline approaches they will ramp up action not concede as they appear to be extremely prideful and being run by auotcrats do not seem to care about the pain it causes the people.

Trump went in and negotiated and is still negotiating with them ad nauseam knowing they would never follow any kind of deal nuclear. They have NEVER kept their word be it in writing or other wise. He has crippled their economy, losing over $500mil a day and their inflation is at almost 100%. They don't care what happens to their own people in an economic sense and they're still executing people. We've negotiated with them since 1979. IMO, although I know Trump is just playing playing the wait game by letting their total economy dry up I personally think we should just go in level what needs to be leveled and kill who needs to be killed. Despite popular belief, they don't control the Straight. 47 years of "negotiating" Enough negotiating. Go in and end it.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2333 on: May 15, 2026, 11:14:26 AM »
NY Times cites new intelligence saying Iran has 90% of launchers left. First 2 days it was everything destroyed and then the undamaged percentage went up as time went on. Iran claims they have 120% compared to before the war, meaning they built more launchers and missiles. Obviously can't trust that but if the production is deep underground perhaps it's not out of the question. Don't know if and how much hardware China and Russia is supplying either.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2334 on: May 15, 2026, 11:22:48 AM »
Nothing. They should let Eeron develop nuclear weapons and kill their neighbors. I'm all for it. Fuck the middle east. Eeron didn't comply with any agreement they made, so why not bomb the fuck out of them?
Since those are the only two choices, I say let them develop nukes, they won't get anywhere near the US. :)

That's what I think. Even if they get nukes they won't affect us.

Pakistan and North Korea have nukes and it doesn't affect me at all.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2335 on: May 15, 2026, 12:37:19 PM »
Ok, please explain the “accurate intelligence” that lead to the decision made by the Obama administration to repeatedly strike the Kunduz Hospital.  To a simpleton like me it seems like a war crime but I’m willing to have my mind changed.

Then read my reply you quoted again.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2336 on: May 15, 2026, 12:38:50 PM »
Trump went in and negotiated and is still negotiating with them ad nauseam knowing they would never follow any kind of deal nuclear. They have NEVER kept their word be it in writing or other wise. He has crippled their economy, losing over $500mil a day and their inflation is at almost 100%. They don't care what happens to their own people in an economic sense and they're still executing people. We've negotiated with them since 1979. IMO, although I know Trump is just playing playing the wait game by letting their total economy dry up I personally think we should just go in level what needs to be leveled and kill who needs to be killed. Despite popular belief, they don't control the Straight. 47 years of "negotiating" Enough negotiating. Go in and end it.

You pretty much described Trumpy and what he has done with our country.

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2337 on: May 15, 2026, 12:53:47 PM »
Trump went in and negotiated and is still negotiating with them ad nauseam knowing they would never follow any kind of deal nuclear. They have NEVER kept their word be it in writing or other wise. He has crippled their economy, losing over $500mil a day and their inflation is at almost 100%. They don't care what happens to their own people in an economic sense and they're still executing people. We've negotiated with them since 1979. IMO, although I know Trump is just playing playing the wait game by letting their total economy dry up I personally think we should just go in level what needs to be leveled and kill who needs to be killed. Despite popular belief, they don't control the Straight. 47 years of "negotiating" Enough negotiating. Go in and end it.

They clearly control the straight, I mean the US could control it as well but thats costly and time consuming. The geographical topology allows them to do this.

He is going to negotiate with them anyway and give concessions to get what he wants, I don't see how this couldn't have been done without the conflict. They simply weren't serious with what they wanted and tried to use might. They also lied about the first attack wrt what happened with the nuclear sites so why believe anything they say now?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2338 on: May 15, 2026, 01:26:22 PM »
Necrosis,
Are you.attending to your patients?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2339 on: May 15, 2026, 01:32:47 PM »
NY Times cites new intelligence saying Iran has 90% of launchers left. First 2 days it was everything destroyed and then the undamaged percentage went up as time went on. Iran claims they have 120% compared to before the war, meaning they built more launchers and missiles. Obviously can't trust that but if the production is deep underground perhaps it's not out of the question. Don't know if and how much hardware China and Russia is supplying either.

Immediately stopped reading at “The New York Times” and so had most everyone one else

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2054937438057898213/video/1?s=46

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2340 on: May 15, 2026, 01:44:57 PM »
Ya because of all the high tech suicide martyrs that have existed. Using fucking dirty bombs and actual planes. You think they would have access to the fucking nukes? lol grow a brain.

The only country that has used a nuke is the US. They aren't retarded ffs. You guys are acting like they are some form of sub-human species instead of a civilization that has existed for a long time.

You have probably never been there or anywhere close to it I reckon. If north korea can have nukes, Iran can have nukes. Funny how you guys wouldn't start this shit with north korea because they would nuke you if you did lol. Kinda proves Irans point.


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You are Correct America are the only country to have used Nukes.
And they don't start on North Korea because they have Nukes
& would no doubt use them.

I'm presuming they don't want another Nutty / Fanatical country
to have nukes which is kind of understandable.

And no I don't go visiting 3rd world Islamic countries.
I don't like Islam & those that follow it.   

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2341 on: May 15, 2026, 01:54:32 PM »
We've negotiated with them since 1979.

About what ?
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2342 on: May 15, 2026, 02:29:14 PM »
Dude, you guys are like two steps away from being fanatics. Some of the christian right are absolutely looney.

Well, you didn't counter my point, so I guess it stands.

But, are those on the Christian right, and specifically those you made up who are two steps away from being fanatics, in control of  the US nuclear program?  Are they actively calling for the destruction of another country the way Iran has been with the US?
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2343 on: May 15, 2026, 05:48:13 PM »
Necrosis,
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He is the patients.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2344 on: May 15, 2026, 08:37:00 PM »
Immediately stopped reading at “The New York Times” and so had most everyone one else

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2054937438057898213/video/1?s=46

I knew you would say this. As if CENTCOM never lies right? They have certain "rules" where they, as a matter of protocol, always lie and deny certain things, everyone knows that. NY Times lies and twists as does every news outlet. You can still somewhat evaluate certain info, especially if corroborated elsewhere. I mean do you trust Trump that Iranian missiles, launchers, navy, all has been completely destroyed, "they aren't even shooting at us anymore"? Why aren't the straits open? I mean there is no navy, no drones and no missiles left?

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Here's a great quote I just read:

"These days the president prefers to bathe in the sweet and soggy praise of those who were against him when he first ran for office: Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro and Lindsey Graham. As strange as it is to say, Trump has become a Never-Trumper."

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2345 on: May 16, 2026, 01:15:11 AM »
This made me howl...he's never missed a Game of Golf  :D
Is this true what Jesse says ?


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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2347 on: May 16, 2026, 11:44:50 AM »
Well, you didn't counter my point, so I guess it stands.

But, are those on the Christian right, and specifically those you made up who are two steps away from being fanatics, in control of  the US nuclear program?  Are they actively calling for the destruction of another country the way Iran has been with the US?

I honestly don't believe most of the higher ups in teh US gov are actually all that religious, i think they use it to their advantage of course. Trump for example has absolutely not read the bible and couldn't give a fuck.

Why is Iran calling for the destruction of the US? what happened or has been happening to cause that?

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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2348 on: May 16, 2026, 03:23:28 PM »
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Re: 2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"
« Reply #2349 on: May 16, 2026, 04:17:34 PM »
NY Times (again lol) claims indications are there will be a resumption of the war early next week. Hell do I know, we'll see. The Coach earlier said he stopped reading at "NY Times." Here's the thing, the US gov  regularly uses NY Times, "the US newspaper of record," and other news outlets to "leak" info. So to look at everything there as anti-gov is not necessarily true. Liberal outlet Washington Post is said to be CIA central. Axios CIA and Mossad connected.  And so on. Fake leaks have to come out somewhere. Sometimes real leaks happen too.

How did Trump's China trip go? WH said China promised this and that, China will buy US oil etc. Next day China said, hold your horses, things were discussed but very preliminary. How sad is that for the US empire? It doesn't matter what country the US deals with, the other country always clarifies the US reports of diplomatic agreements aren't true.

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